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nathalie
She looks strange on this pic.What do you think?
sabine
What?? It's clearly Marilyn on her wedding day to Joe Dimaggio...it's just a very poor quality pic.


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Mandydolphin
Nathalie,I also think it's Marilyn
wootness
I dont think that is Marilyn. Marilyn's hair was much more curly that day and she didnt wear gloves.

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marilyn
no i don't think it's marilyn either
nathalie
Thanks at all.
sabine
Woah, ok, i didn't see that she had gloves on in the mystery pic BUT never the less...it's definetly Marilyn...i mean, look at her face. And it's the same outfit from the wedding. Maybe she wore it for another function sometime in 1954....maybe while in San Francisco with Joe?
It's Marilyn for sure though.....


sabine
wootness
Well I wont be convinced until someone finds some more information on the picture.
nathalie
I read it's maybe with King Paul of Greece and Quenn Friederike, Princess of Hannover. rolleyes1.gif
ellen
her face looks real long and her nose looks broad im not sure?
minx_dublin
Linda posted this reply in Sabine's Yahoo group :

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David,
I think Marilyn is photographied with King Paul of Greece and his wife Queen Friederike.
The queen was inspired by Marilyn clothes, look what she wore when she visited our Belgian Queen Fabiola --lol
Linda
nathalie
They came to the marriage???
sabine
Cool Info... clapping.gif
yes, this was posted at my club recently. It's definetly marilyn....can we get a date on this??? rolleyes1.gif
That would make me happy...... balloon.gif


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linkeando
but her hairstyle itīs different, and her body, itīs so strange.... look at her
suusmarie
I agree with Jeannette...there is something completly off with this photo hmm.gif !! Her face seems to long and the hair...I am not convinced coolio.gif .

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meganmarilyn
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Zelda Zonk
The face and hair throw me off. And wow, the face does look like a drawing.
wootness
Im still not convinced that it's Marilyn. Everything is off.
sabine
Ok guys.....all i can see is that the Picture is very crappy....but never the less, it's Marilyn....everybody in the Pic looks in poor quality more or less, not just marilyn...what's throwing everybody off is that the picture is particularily in poor quality in Marilyn's nose area....
I checked to see where Marilyn was during this time (November 14th 1953) and she was in Hollywood. So, physically she could have been there....
Her Hair was long (this was 10 days after the premiere of 'how to marry a Millionaire' where Marilyn's Hair was longer...) She cut it shorter in early December 1953..
Personnally i think that this Pic is legit, just bad quality... no.gif


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#1 November 4th 1953. At the Premiere Marilyn's hair is longer with a long side bang....
#2 November 14th 1953....Hair appears long (even longer now because she wore it straight) with a long side bang....
#3 December 8th 1953...Marilyn cut her hair into a shorter, curlier style
meganmarilyn
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sabine
And the purpose for faking this photo would be???
I am gonna agree to dissagree...i see no reason to 'fake' a photo like this....if it actually ment something or somebody is trying to prove something (like maybe faking a photo with Marilyn and J.F.K strolling around together...lol...) but a meeting between Marilyn and some royals visiting hollywood?
I see no reason for it....i will mantain that the pic is simply in poor quality....the other people don't look so hot either...lol....by the way, the man right behind marilyn, isn't that skouros (i might be misspelling his name) rolleyes1.gif



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sabine
Megan, i just wanted to say that i value your input very much and between us we have solved some mysteries.... clapping.gif ....i hate to dissagree with you and hopefully we can find out more about the mystery pic.
I also draw and have for a long time....the likeness is too much like Marilyn, also wearing the suit from her upcoming wedding is too much of a coincidence....would somebody else wear that identical suit to the meeting with the royals and then marilyn's face was super imposed unto that person wearing marilyn's own suit?
(That's too weird...)
Or was Marilyn's entire body and face superimposed into the pic? I see no reason to do this.....who are they trying to fool and why? lack of motive. Most people wouldn't even KNOW about this meeting...i sure didn't untill recently. And i thought i knew everything..lol...just kidding. blush.gif
I am just trying to apply Logic... rolleyes1.gif


sabine


PS: Also concider this: In the Pic Marilyn could be looking 'worse quality' than some of the other People in the Pic because Marilyn was so pale, her hair so light....she reflected more light and she comes out in the Pic as more 'washed out', almost a little 'ghostly'...everybody else has darker hair and darker features....
meganmarilyn
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marie-marilyn
I'd be tempted to say that it is a photoshopped piece, because if you look really closely you can see where the head has been lifted onto the picture (there is a little block of grey pixels which I am sure shouldn't be there).
However, why someone would take an outfit that is similar and stick the head on I don't know (wouldn't you take an actual photo of her wedding and post the head on if you felt so inclined?)

The mystery continues...
marilyn
personally i also think it's a drawing
sabine
It's not from the wedding because Marilyn didn't wear gloves, just the same suit....i stand behind my gut feling that the pic is for real, just really bad looking....one way to figure out for sure is to find out if Marilyn really did meet the king and queen whatever...lol...


sabine PS: still don't get the motive behind 'faking' this pic. What for?
meganmarilyn
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sabine
well, if somebody is trying to 'scam' the public with a rare Marilyn photo, you'd think they'd make it a less ugly one....lolol....
Anyways, i guess we're just gonna have to agree to dissagree on this one. I just don't see it. I'm not much for conspiracies and stuff either....what can I say??


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PS: As far as Marilyn's face being different than the other people.....i still think that's because Marilyn was so pale and the light blond hair, making her look rather ghostly, 'washing her out'....
Marilyn2Bonnie
Click to view attachmentClick to view attachmentClick to view attachmentClick to view attachmentClick to view attachmentClick to view attachmentI don't beleave the pictures Marilyn.She did not ware gloves and the hair does not look the same Marilyn's hair looks shorter and if you look close at the picture Marilyn is wareing something that looks like Jewelry maybe a Jeweled pin at her neck line at the top of her first button.
Marilyn2Bonnie
Click to view attachmentClick to view attachmentI have this picture of Marilyn in Black lace. I don't think the lace picture flatters Marilyn,but look at the nose they look to me much the same as the wedding picture. Interesting.
suusmarie
Wow shock.gif blink.gif !!
linkeando
hahahahaha, my face was similar, LOL
sabine
FINALLY....i feel vindicated. I said the pic in question was REAL, just a shabby quality. The latest pic proves Marilyn was there.
I just seemed odd to me to fake the pic.....

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suusmarie
I now remember the event being briefly mentioned in the Spoto book doh.gif ! In the chapter covering 1953 Spoto talks about Sidney Skolsky escorting MM to all kind of events, including a party for the King&Queen of Greece, in the fall of 1953 wink3.gif .

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linkeando
YES!!!! suus
good eye!!!!!
page 283 spanish version
her route with skolsky was Sheila Grahamīs wedding, night club and a this party.

very strong (like we say in Spain) LOL

SOLVED!!!!!!!
linkeando
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Paul%20of%20Greece

at the present Sofía de Grecia y Hannover is Queen of Spain

is it this event?

then i have this date November 13, 1953

what do you think?
sabine
I checked Marilyn's 'look' in november of 1953...and her hair was long. Just like in the picture. Totally possible then.


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linkeando
november 1953 Click to view attachment

shorter in decembre 1953 Click to view attachment
wootness
This is an automated reply

Considering the information contributed by our members regarding the original question, we can now consider this investigation as solved.
linkeando
well, is solved, but definitively, Marilyn saluted to the Greek Royalty

http://www.movietone.com/N_search.cfm?Acti...sultsPerPage=10

Ileana
Thank you, Jeannette, that's very rare footage! Does anyone have an account? Or can anyone upload the clip pretty please?
linkeando
ileana, you can use my trick wink3.gif

http://www.movietone.com/assets/BMN0583/wmv/BMN_60117_3.wmv for Windows Media Player, then saves as... into you PC
Ileana
It didn't work crybaby.gif It just opened Winamp but didn't play any file.
linkeando
ops, sorry, i donīt know why. Then you must be registered, itīs free and easy
Lacrymosa
Ileana you should try Media Player Classic it works with me.
Ileana
Thank you, girls jumpymm.gif I managed!
suusmarie
Great link Jeannette, thanks clapping.gif !
Jim Parson
I am shocked that this was reported as solved. Just because she met with King Paulo and Queen Frederica does NOT make this picture real. In fact, it is VERY obviously photoshopped. You can see the line across her forehead where the different face was attached and if you follow that line, you will plainly see that the hair on her left side (our right) doesn't even match up. It is very easy to see exactly where the cropped face was laid over the top of the picture. This is most definitely a fake.
Mezzo
QUOTE(nightxposed @ Apr 2 2012, 06:51 PM) *
I am shocked that this was reported as solved. Just because she met with King Paulo and Queen Frederica does NOT make this picture real. In fact, it is VERY obviously photoshopped. You can see the line across her forehead where the different face was attached and if you follow that line, you will plainly see that the hair on her left side (our right) doesn't even match up. It is very easy to see exactly where the cropped face was laid over the top of the picture. This is most definitely a fake.


I'm not good at determining if a photo has been photoshopped. Here is a link to a BBC video about the visit and a photo I captured from the link:
http://www.bbcmotiongallery.com/gallery/cl...8050357_0800.do

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