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Nina
I found some of the Brentwood pics on ebay today... maybe we can share here all our pics we have from the house photo.gif
Nina
some more...
Nina
and more...
Mandydolphin
Does anybody know something more about the current owners??Or have pics from the house from a recent visit?
Lorraine
Oh it's lovely with a real Mexican feel,the sort of interia i would like...............thankyou for sharing these pictures they are wonderful
direnni
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intersting this session photo!
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moglet
very interesting .... rolleyes1.gif her house was beautiful ! i never seen the coloured photos of her house if you have more please post ! thanks for sharing xx
Mandydolphin
Some more pics
moglet
mandydolphin do you know when those pics were taken ? i mean the color ones and the black and white ? elastingstar.gif
jily
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direnni
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SUPER PHOTO'S
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MarilynForever86
Anybody have pics of her in the house???

I love these photos biggrin.gif
jily
would they be the ones she did with allan grant
her last interview where shes sitting a chair???

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Fav
Nina, who are the motley crue featured in the 2 'home snaps' in your first posting? Any ideas? Are they the pre-cursor to the Osbournes or even the Adaams Family? scared.gif
Mandydolphin
I think the Nunez family.The first residents after Marilyn died.
mels
From the Forever Marilyn Death Discussion group, some info regarding the Nunez Family, posted by David :


From "Hometown Girl":

On August 5, 1962, Dr. Gilbert and Betty Nunez registered to view 12305 5th Helena-- not due to its last resident but because the world reknowned surgeon desired an authentic hacienda. Unknown to the Nunezs however, six other realtors had also sold the house at the same time with the will not yet in probate. A biffing war ensued- - the presiding judge decided that the final cost would be 10% over
the highest offer. The Nunezs paid $350,000-- five times the market value of the property. They were also given the opportunity to purchase many of the contents from the house at a fraction of their actual worth. The family no longer possesses any of the items, having sold them at a 1997 auction or to private individuals. Other items owned by the estate were sold in October 1999 at the much publicized Christie's auction in New York City. Much of the furniture has remained in or returned to Los Angeles in the possession of two private collectors who have reunited some of the pieces as Marilyn originally had them."


There is also a sheet covering the items the family purchased when they moved in, including things like a vacuum, a TV set, portable heater etc.-- and the prices they paid-- if interested, let me know.

The only other thing I know concerns their daughter, Debbie. She was at the birthday gathering at Greg's house and showed a photo she had taken-- When Marilyn had the master bath redone there was a lot of tile left over-- the Nunezs kept the tiles and recently Debbie has been selling it on eBay. She returned to the house to take a picture of the shower and bath to show the tile in place to go along with her eBay thing. Well the resulting picture shows a "ghostly image"
in the tiles and whoever Debbie sold the photo to now has it up on eBay for $10,000.00! The "ghostly image" really is just a reflection in the tile from the flash of the camera, IMO.
Fav
Truly interesting stuff. Thanks Mels, Mandy. I guess the majority of people out there would sell the possessions at some point but I think the selling tiles on ebay is taking it a bit too far.
Nina
QUOTE(Fav @ Aug 4 2004, 10:10 PM)
Nina, who are the motley crue featured in the 2 'home snaps' in your first posting? Any ideas? Are they the pre-cursor to the Osbournes or even the Adaams Family?  scared.gif
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LOL, Fav laugh.gif - maybe the Osbournes of the 60's or 70's... no, this is Fam. Nunez as someone mentioned a view posts later (Mandydolphin or someone else, I remember not for sure, sorry).

However, I wanted to thank everyone (especially Jily) for the really amazing pics! thumbup.gif + scared.gif there are some I haven't seen before and I hope we will share more...

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Mandydolphin
A couple more
Mandydolphin
Ok couldn't resist,here are a few more.
Mandydolphin
Last ones
Nina
Those are great Mandy banana.gif
sweetnormajean
Great Pics! Thanks to all! thumbup.gif
Tara
Thanks so much to everyone! These are great - what a lovely house balloon.gif
Celia
I attach two more.
Does anyone know if these were taken in 1962? Is the red sofa Marilyn´s?
How is it that it ís not there in other pictures?
Nina
Hey Celia,

the two pics you've attch. are from Gary's Site and it looks like, our talented Brandon Heidrick has something to do with those photos wink3.gif

Here is a describtion taken directly from the website:

Below: Two views of the furnished living room in 1962 as depicted by artist Brandon Heidrick (Copyright 2003)

Maybe it were his thoughts of how the living room could look

Gary's Holding a good thought for Marilyn Website arrow2.gif http://web.tampabay.rr.com/gurovr/livingroom.htm
Celia
Hiiiiiiii Nina!!!!!!!
THanks a lot for claryfing it for me, but I´m a bit dumb biggrin.gif
Do you mean those are retouched photos of just paintings ?
It looks so real!! Brandon is a real artist!
Nina
I'm a bit dumb too laugh.gif

I believe, Brandon made these pics with a graphic-programm like Photoshop or a 3-D programm or whatever and used informations from the Christies Catalog and he added these (known) things like sofa, chair etc. to the photos step by step. I can't say for sure if those are paintings or retouched pictures - but I would say they're re-constructed (is that the right word?) or retouched... wink3.gif

Well, this is what I believe - maybe he can explain it for us, when he's online again biggrin.gif

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Celia
Hey Nina, excuse me for being so tiring! LOL but I still have another question if some one can answer it.
Was the red sofa Marilyn´s ? I mean , even if it has been added to the photo, was it the sofa Marilyn had at her Brentwood home? Did she actually have one there ( since it doesn´t appear in any of the photos taken of the house in 1962) ? Did she have a TV set there? What I always found shocking when waching at the black and white photos of the living room is the absence of a comfortable sofa, a tv set, a bookcase...

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brandonheidrick
The red sofa was purchased in Mexico weeks before Marilyn died, it arrived a few days after her death and sat in the garage wrapped in plastic ...

The furniture in her living room at the time of her death consisted of:

4 stools, a leather covered coffee table, an end table with lamp and chess set, a record player with speakers, a bench, 2 whicker chairs, and a large whicker basket. Marilyn's tv was supposed to have been in her bedroom as far as anyone can tell.

Her bedroom was bare as well ... a lot of her furniture was ordered but hadn't arrived.
Nina
Thanks for telling us, Brandon. I didn't know about that red sofa either; where did you find out about that? Can I read it in a book, article or do you know the source? That would be interesting to know, even what kind of more things came from Mexico after her death? I'm just curious wink3.gif

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brandonheidrick
I think you can find pretty much anything and everything regarding her last home in Gary's book ... I don't think there's any other out there that goes into the depth his does. And all the proceeds from the book have been going to Hollygrove ... it was a labor of love.
Nina
doh.gif I have his book; maybe I should better read it laugh.gif Thanks Brandon
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Nettie
Hey there Glaze. Where did you get the last 3 pictures? Was the 3rd one her kitchen? Do ya have more? Thanks!!!!
suusmarie
I posted these last three photos in this tread originally, they travel around it seems laugh.gif biggrin.gif http://www.everlasting-star.net/boards/mar...posts/7231.html!

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QUOTE(brandonheidrick @ Jan 29 2005, 08:33 AM)
The red sofa was purchased in Mexico weeks before Marilyn died, it arrived a few days after her death and sat in the garage wrapped in plastic ...
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It seems the sofa is now in possession of Greg Schreiner
(from the Marilyn Remembered fan club)
See this Web site and scroll down :

http://marilynmonroepages.com/January.html
but now the sofa is not red, but beige.
Are we talking about the same item ? Can anyone clarify this ?
Nettie
From Gary Vitacco- Robles' book
Cursum Perficio: Marilyn Monroe's Brentwood Hacienda
This is my very favorite OF ALL my Marilyn books because it gives so many details of her last home, each room, the furniture, everything she did to renovate it. It has all these neat diagrams of the house. I feel like I know it very well myself. I could walk through it with my eyes closed now.

Concerning that sofa it says:

"A red sofa designed by Norman Norell in New York will arrive several days before Marilyn's death. It remains in shipping wrap in the guest house. The small couch has cushioned sidearms, hinged to the seat, that fold down to create extensions. The sidearms attach by ties to large knobs on each end of the back support. The sofa will later be upholstered in gold velour and owned by a collector in Los Angeles. "
poning
Very interesting topic. I wanna know more about this.

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Nettie
Do you want to read more about the house?
Edited to save space.
rose
Umm,only interesting thing is that it used to belong to MM but otherwise if I would be looking for a house to buy I most definetely wouldn't buy this awful place.Only good thing is swimming pool.Yuck! hmm.gif
Tara
I don't agree, I think it's a nice house. Modest by movie standards, perhaps, but it reflects Marilyn's simple tastes. I can't quite imagine her in a Jayne Mansfield-style 'pink palace'.

Marilyn rarely used the pool herself, but she liked having it for her friends to swim in.

Although, when she was married to Arthur, Marilyn had plans for a much grander abode, designed by Frank Lloyd Wright. She ditched the idea because it was too expensive, and made renovations to the farmhouse instead.
Mandydolphin
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I don't agree, I think it's a nice house. Modest by movie standards, perhaps, but it reflects Marilyn's simple tastes. I can't quite imagine her in a Jayne Mansfield-style 'pink palace'.

Marilyn rarely used the pool herself, but she liked having it for her friends to swim in.

Although, when she was married to Arthur, Marilyn had plans for a much grander abode, designed by Frank Lloyd Wright. She ditched the idea because it was too expensive, and made renovations to the farmhouse instead.


I agree.I think Marilyns choice for the house said/says a lot about her character/personality.
Paju
I agree with you Tara. I think the house is wonderful, I'd love to live in a house like that. It's simple enough for Marilyn's taste - like you said, I really can't imagine Marilyn living in a huge Hollywood mansion (like the Pink Palace).
riemedial
Here are some photos I took of Marilyn's house when I was out in Los Angeles in November of 2004. I was lucky enough to show up at a time when the gate was open, but the cleaning lady was there cleaning the guest cottage and she kept shooting me dirty looks, so I quickly took these, paid my respects and left. I wish I could have been free to run around the grounds and take my time shooting all kinds of photos, but of course thats not possible, so these are the best I could do under the circumstances. I hope you like them.
nicky62
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Do you want to read more about the house?
From Gary Vitacco- Robles' book
Cursum Perficio: Marilyn Monroe's Brentwood Hacienda

Mrs. Murray writes that in late January 1962, a real estate agent suggests a house in Brentwood as he ends his business day. The agent provides directions to a snug 2,300 square foot home at the end of a cul-de-sac named Fifth Helena Drive near San Vincente Boulevard and Carmelina Drive. Brentwood's main street is San Vincente Boulevard, its median lined by huge coral trees. Carmelina bisects San Vincente to the south and Sunset Boulevard in the north. Off winding Carmelina is a succession of short cul-de-sacs known as the numbereed Helenas. In the winter of 1962, Fifth Helena Drive is unmarked. Actually, the short cul-de-sac resembles an alley with two homes at its end. The home for sale at 12305 Helena Drive is on the left, and a two-story home is on the right. Only two other homes share the street, and they face Carmelina Drive.

Sorrounded by a high wall, the three bedroom, two bath home is private and secluded. It features lush gardens, a swimming pool, a small detached guest house, and a garage. The house was built in 1929 on an acre of rolling lawn with a sloping rear view overlooking the valley below. Its Spanish colonial architecture boasts cathedral beamed ceilings, arched doorways, textured adobe stucco walls, and deep-sill Spanish windows. The living room windows boast their own little roofs and iron gratings. Step-up entrances create levels and interesting architectural detailing. Tiles on the front doorsteps bare a coat of arms and the inscription Cursum Perficio, a Latin expression translating to "I have completed my journey." Marilyn will find comfort in the message that foreshadows her death.

Mrs. Murray follows the directions and discovers the L-shaped home tucked behind a large gate and whitewashed brick wall covered by blooming bougainvillea vines. The red barrel tiled roof of the garage is visible above the seven- foot wall. Inside the gate is a red brick driveway in front of a garage. Attached to the garage, on the right, is a guest house. It is separated from the kitchen, in the main house, by a walled garden. The kitchen forms the short leg of the residence's L-shape. The remainder of the main house is perpendicular to the kitchen and set behind a lawn with a flagstone path leading to the front door.

Mrs. Murray waits patiently for the current owners to locate their real estate agent so that she may tour the interior. She hears the cries of a baby and sounds of children playing inside. Once inside, Mrs. Murray steps up from the entryway into a wide living room featuring a fireplace and glass doors opening to the swimming pool. She steps up again through an arched entrance to a hallway to the right of the living room leading to three bedrooms forming an inverted triangle shape. The master bedroom faces the house's front and includeds a kiva fireplace in the corner and a master bath. Behind the master bedroom are two smaller bedrooms adjoined by a bathroom. As many homes built during the Great Depression, closet space is limited. Mrs. Murray notices the interior is brightened by many casement windows and exretior glass doors.

Mrs. Murray continues exploring this charming home and grows excited by it's potential. To the left of the living room is a small dining room sandwiched between a kitchen in front and a sunroom toward the rear. The glass-enclosed sunroom leads to the pool and is marred by an unattractive heating system. Outside, the long, narrow lot bares eucalyptus trees, hillocks of baby's breath, and German moss. A coastal breeze blows from the Pacific Ocean from the west.

Mrs. Murray quickly makes arrangements to secure the key for Marilyn's private viewing while the family is away. Mrs. Murray later remembers Marilyn's first reaction to the home. Marilyn studies and memorizes the home's every detail, brick by brick. She likes that the home has the feel of being lived in by several generations. It's simplicity, privacy and sturdy construction earn Marilyn's approval.

The outdated kitchen and baths are not authentic to the home's architectural motif and require remodeling and new fixtures. Marilyn is immediately inspired to decorate these rooms with bright, colorful Mexican tiles similar to the Greenson' home. She plans to reproduce the warm feeling of her psychiatric's kitchen where she has enjoyed family gatherings and domestic routine. Marilyn sees beyond the contemporary furnishings, unimaginative decor, and unsightly exposed heating system. She envisions the thirty-three year old home restored to it's original, authentic Spanish colonial ambiance. Outside, Marilyn visualizes a wooden platform terrace with seats constructed under a shade tree at the end of the sloped backyard. Marilyn is intrigued and seeks Joe DiMaggio for advice.

Joe DiMaggio accompanies Marilyn and Mrs. Murray to see the home and to offer his impression. Mrs. Murray laters recalls Joe putiing his head down in the car as they drive into the neighborhood. He avoids being recognized by residents and inciting rumors of house hunting with his former wife. The press has speculated over the past year about a reconciliation and remarriage.

After receiving positive feedback from Joe, Marilyn has the neighbors checked and learns one is a university professor. After her death, neighbor Abe Landau will tell an interviewer that the community was excited about Marilyn's presence and watched the studio limousine whisk her down the streets in the mornings.

Other neighbors, the John and Joan Maurcieri family on Dunoon Drive, wil share with Mrs. Murray memories of their famous neighbor's curiousity about them. The back of the Maurcieri home buttresses the rear of Marilyn's property. On the morning of Joan's birthday, the family celebrates by having a brunch made by the young daughters on the patio. They notice Marilyn, in a red kimono, standing on the hill at the edge of her property quietly watching them. The Maurcieri family chooses not to acknowledge her. Embarrassed, Marilyn slowly walks up the hill toward her home. The family will later wish they had asked her to join them.

Another neighbor on Third Helena Drive is Hanna Fenichel, a prominent psychoanalyst active in the Marxist faction of the Psychoanylistic Institute and friend of Dr. Greeson's. The second story of her house overlooks the Fifth Helena Drive cul-de-sac.

Marilyn purchases the home for $77,500 from William and Doris Pagen who, along with their children, have outgrown it. She makes a down payment of $42,500 and qualifies for 15-year mortgage, at six and one-half percent interest, with the City National Bank of Beverly Hills. Marilyn uses as collateral her 1963 deferred salary payment of $100,000 from her 105 share of Some Like It Hot. Monthly payments of $320 begin March 1, 1962. If Marilyn remains in the home and continues the payment at this rate, the mortgage loan will be paid February 1, 1977, when she is 50.

Marilyn's new attorney Milton Rudin, Greenson's brother-in-law, draws up the sales contract. He also transfers Marilyn's professional representation from MCA to his own firm.In her Doheny Drive apartment, Marilyn hesitates signing the escrow papers and excuses herself to the bedroom where she cries. She later explains, "I felt badly because I was buying a house all alone."

Hi Nettie:
can you scan some pages of pics from this book?
i am dying to see it
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Nettie
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