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the_Mmmm_girl
Well this isn't really trivia but as I was reading thru my fave book "The Ultimate Look At The Legend" I spotted a couple of things that I didn't know and never noticed previously so I thought I'd share it with you guys and ladies:

1. Marilyn used to go out with her chauffeur and hair-dresser Peter Leonardi to the Bowery. Marilyn (in disguise) would walk along the streets, handing out money to the poor people living there. Now the interesting thing about this is that the only money Marilyn would have max is $40 8-O - $40 spending money allowance was given to her by Milton Greene every week. The rest of her money was totally under Greene's control so everytime she would run out of money, she'd have to wait till next week's allowance to pay back Peter or if she wanted to buy anything for herself (Greene covered her rent, groceries, etc.)! This totally shocked me, now I know that Milton was a business partner of hers but I never knew that he had that tight of a hold over MM's finance... MM obviously wasn't greedy about money and trusted Greene a lot!

2. Marilyn used to go to the end of 58th Street New York and meet a couple of young boys who trapped brids to sell them at a meat market for 50 cents a piece. Now instead of handing the birds over to be slaughtered for food, MM would pay these boys to release the birds...

3. If you watch the Happy Birthday clip in any documentary, Peter Lawford introduces MM several times before she actually comes out. Now this adds to the well-known myth that she was completely drunk and wasted and that night so that it took several calls before she could actually come out on stage. It not true though, MM didn't appear earlier because she WASN'T supposed to appear! The earlier intro's were supposed to tease the audience for the grande finale: Marilyn and the Happy Birthday Cake! The gag was all supposed to be for fun and was INTENTIONAL! The whole drunk story I guess just sounded better to those who wanted to depict MM as an out of control diva. Also, Marilyn was hardly dead-drunk considering how she was responsible for keeping her 80+ year-old father-in-law Isadore Miller company and bringing him home after the party.


4. To those of us who has a "tick", I thought it was rather surprising that MM herself had one! According to Haspiel, MM's tick was that when she opened the door at 155 East 93rd Street, the first thing she would do after stepping out of it, every time, as she stepped out on to the street, she would cup her hand in front of her mouth and cough into it, then she would look up. You could count on this, you could bet the house on it... according to Mr. Haspiel laughing.gif I just thought that was too cute!

Okay this is all for now, I'll add more later biggrin.gif [/b]
the_Mmmm_girl
Completely sorry this is a double post, just trying to post a piccie biggrin.gif
Zebo
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Marilyn used to go to the end of 58th Street New York and meet a couple of young boys who trapped brids to sell them at a meat market for 50 cents a piece. Now instead of handing the birds over to be slaughtered for food, MM would pay these boys to release the birds...


That's terrific. I'm a vegetarian and a bit of an animal rights activist (meaning I donate money to various charities; anti-bullfighting, pet shelters, anti-fur organizations, et cetera), and I read in another biography that she would sometimes order whoever drove her to stop on the side of the road when she spotted a wounded animal.

She probably got ridiculed for it, especially then, but I admire that. She seemed to care a lot about creatures weaker than her, no doubt because she recognized something and thought she could ease their suffering somewhat.

[PS -- I know she often wore fur coats, but I justify that for myself by thinking it was the times; things were different then.]
Twisty_treat
I agree about the coats Zebo - I think it was the times. Of course, while maybe I'd get how a fur coat would look nice, what was the deal with the little...I don't know what to call them, stoles was it? You know, when a dead animal - i.e. a fox - would be laid around their shoulder. In its entirety. WIth its whole bosy, face, tail, everything! That always kind of freaks me out...
ANyway, before I got out on this tangent, I was going to welcome you Zebo. bye1.gif I'm sure you're going to be very happy here, and be someone who posts and joins in discussions and stuff [some people just join for pics - which isn't bad or anything, but it's nice to actually talk to people!] So welcome welcome welcome! banana.gif
Zebo
Hehe.

Thanks, TT!

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MM_Yvonne
WOW!!!!
I did know some of them, but the last one was really cute....
She was really a kind person hug.gif

Damn those fools that used her.
BASTARDS!!!!!!! :twisted: thumbdown.gif
glamour
Thanks for those cute facts! I like the bird one, shows how sweet she is and the little tick she had... its too funny. biggrin.gif
Paju
Aww those little trivia facts are so sweet smile1.gif MM was a caring person (bird thing) and a real, "ordinary" person (she had that tick). I didn't know that money thing before! 8-O And I didn't know about the b-day thing either! In fact, all this stuff was new to me... rolleyes1.gif
~Paju~
shutterbug
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Aww those little trivia facts are so sweet smile1.gif MM was a caring person (bird thing) and a real, "ordinary" person (she had that tick). I didn't know that money thing before! 8-O And I didn't know about the b-day thing either! In fact, all this stuff was new to me... rolleyes1.gif
~Paju~
you think most of that is new to you? ALL of it is new to me, lol.
EternalGoddess
lol the tick is too cute biggrin.gif i actually just did that sitting in front of my computer. lol jumpymm.gif
Val
Thanks Rita. I knew all of this stuff except for the last one, real cute flirt.gif

as to Milton well yes I knew that. I remember I wrote something about that in a thread ages ago and that's why I can't stand the guy (amongst other things) thumbdown.gif

Val hug.gif
marilynmonroe517
i wonder why she coughed in her hand like that? its cute though winkiss.gif
facts like these allow us to see the sweet heart of hers

ash
daynuh8
aw! I love you Marilyn biggrin.gif
crash32002
Wow, thank you for posting this. It's very interesting and proves that much more...how sweet Marilyn was.
riches4me2
I know barely anything about Marilyn Monroe. I saw a few of her movies and see her pics. I joined to know more. I heard that Marilyn died in a car accident then was told that she was found in her bed. Some say she committed suicide others say she was murdered. But I thought it was nice she cared for the poor and for the birds.
Mairi
That's so cute! It's really nice to see the human side of Marilyn.
crash32002
"I know barely anything about Marilyn Monroe. I saw a few of her movies and see her pics. I joined to know more. I heard that Marilyn died in a car accident then was told that she was found in her bed. Some say she committed suicide others say she was murdered. But I thought it was nice she cared for the poor and for the birds. "

This really isn't topic related, but Jayne Mansfield is the actress that tragically died in a car accident. Marilyn was in bed, and yes, theories are like cell phones (everybody has one).
purple-haze
yeah i did know thoes things and its a good job too becuase in 4months time im going to london to be on a programme they call mastermind. and my specialist subject is marilyn!!!
sdpt
I was reading in a Audrey Hepburn bio that Marilyn was chosen to play Holly Golightly, in Breakast at Tiffany's, but some how they dropped her and added Audrey. I forgot who said it, but he said Marilyn was right for the part and Audrey wasn't.
Zelda Zonk
Sh'ayn, I think the man you are talking about is Truman Capote, the writer of Breakfast at Tiffany's. biggrin.gif
Tara
QUOTE(purple-haze @ May 27 2005, 03:41 PM)
yeah i did know thoes things and its a good job too becuase in 4months time im  going to london to be on a programme they call mastermind. and my specialist subject is marilyn!!!
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Wow, that's great! Be sure to let us know when you're on TV!
Tara
Found this on the net:

At the time of her death, she had $2,200 in her checking account, but a two-day October 1999 Christie's auction of her belongings raised $13.4 million.

Her books alone raised $475,000 and the money was donated to Literacy Partners, an organization that teaches 1 million New Yorkers to read and write.
sdpt
QUOTE(Tara @ Jul 29 2005, 07:01 PM)
Found this on the net:

At the time of her death, she had $2,200 in her checking account, but a two-day October 1999 Christie's auction of her belongings raised $13.4 million.

Her books alone raised $475,000 and the money was donated to Literacy Partners, an organization that teaches 1 million New Yorkers to read and write.

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The scars revealed in Bert Stern's photographs on her tummy, were a result of a Gall Bladder surgery six months prior to their session.
meztisa
I never realized any scars...
Nancy
QUOTE(meztisa @ May 25 2007, 01:16 PM) [snapback]134825[/snapback]
I never realized any scars...


You can see them in these Barris shots. I never noticed any in Stern's photos.


Blonde 007
QUOTE(jemaniac @ May 25 2007, 02:01 PM) *
You can see them in these Barris shots. I never noticed any in Stern's photos.




This has always confused me! The gall bladder is located on the right side of the body - under the right ribcage (and when it is inflamed, the pain is ... TERRIBLE! I have been hospitalized with it - not fun). That is an odd mark in the Barris photos, but it is not a gall bladder scar. It is on the wrong side, too low, and too far to the side.

So i have no idea what that is! Did she possibly have a birthmark there? It looks more like a mark than a scar - surgical scars are usually thinner and more clean, straight. (i have one of those too!).

Allie
mar76
Maybe a bruise...
Alanma
The scar from Marilyn's gall-bladder op is very visible in some of the Bert Stern photos, particularly one of her fooling with a red chiffon scarf. Marilyn is grinning, and holding up the scarf up to reveal the livid scar, which is about 5in long just under her right breast, as if to say 'So what? I'm only human!'

I think the mark above her left hip is obviously a bruise. Marilyn bruised very easily.
californiadude
QUOTE(riches4me2 @ Mar 30 2005, 07:24 PM) *
I know barely anything about Marilyn Monroe. I saw a few of her movies and see her pics. I joined to know more. I heard that Marilyn died in a car accident then was told that she was found in her bed. Some say she committed suicide others say she was murdered. But I thought it was nice she cared for the poor and for the birds.


You could have also read about Lady Diana, people most always compare them!
louie_gee_gee
throb.gif marilynbybrandon_190.gif I did not know that about Milton Greene! ohmy.gif And I always thought he was just a photographer she was friends with! I had no idea he held that much sway over her!

Poor Marilyn - sometimes it seems that everyone she knew just used her. no.gif

Good for Marilyn giving away the money to the homeless people though! clapping.gif
Alanma
Milton Greene was a longstanding friend of Marilyn. He and his wife supported her financially through the lean years.
He became Marilyn's business partner, with 49% of Marilyn Monroe Productions, Inc.
On some copies of TPASG he is credited as Executive Producer. They parted company after he was accused of 'financial irregularities', which he always denied.
Arthur Miller probably engineered the separation.
louie_gee_gee
QUOTE(Alanma @ Feb 15 2008, 06:36 PM) *
Milton Greene was a longstanding friend of Marilyn. He and his wife supported her financially through the lean years.
He became Marilyn's business partner, with 49% of Marilyn Monroe Productions, Inc.
On some copies of TPASG he is credited as Executive Producer. They parted company after he was accused of 'financial irregularities', which he always denied.
Arthur Miller probably engineered the separation.



throb.gif marilynbybrandon_190.gif Gosh, I hadn't heard any of that. Very interesting, thanks! thumbup1.gif

(The more I hear about Marilyn's life, the more I think it seems she was maninpulated by those who were supposed to care about her. unsure.gif )
TheDuke
QUOTE(louie_gee_gee @ Feb 15 2008, 03:49 PM) *
throb.gif marilynbybrandon_190.gif Gosh, I hadn't heard any of that. Very interesting, thanks! thumbup1.gif

(The more I hear about Marilyn's life, the more I think it seems she was maninpulated by those who were supposed to care about her. unsure.gif )


Louie, find After The Fall by Arthur Miller and have a read of it, then you'll find out that what you said is an understatement.

Everyone calls Paula and Lee Strasberg every name under the sun (and deservedly so) for helping to hold Marilyn's head under water but the real enemy was one Arthur Asher Miller. I seem to remember from my marriage vows that you're supposed to love the person you marry...not use their pain to write yourself out of a block.
BeforeTheDawn
QUOTE(the_Mmmm_girl @ May 26 2003, 03:08 PM) *
Well this isn't really trivia but as I was reading thru my fave book "The Ultimate Look At The Legend" I spotted a couple of things that I didn't know and never noticed previously so I thought I'd share it with you guys and ladies:

1. Marilyn used to go out with her chauffeur and hair-dresser Peter Leonardi to the Bowery. Marilyn (in disguise) would walk along the streets, handing out money to the poor people living there. Now the interesting thing about this is that the only money Marilyn would have max is $40 8-O - $40 spending money allowance was given to her by Milton Greene every week. The rest of her money was totally under Greene's control so everytime she would run out of money, she'd have to wait till next week's allowance to pay back Peter or if she wanted to buy anything for herself (Greene covered her rent, groceries, etc.)! This totally shocked me, now I know that Milton was a business partner of hers but I never knew that he had that tight of a hold over MM's finance... MM obviously wasn't greedy about money and trusted Greene a lot!

2. Marilyn used to go to the end of 58th Street New York and meet a couple of young boys who trapped brids to sell them at a meat market for 50 cents a piece. Now instead of handing the birds over to be slaughtered for food, MM would pay these boys to release the birds...

3. If you watch the Happy Birthday clip in any documentary, Peter Lawford introduces MM several times before she actually comes out. Now this adds to the well-known myth that she was completely drunk and wasted and that night so that it took several calls before she could actually come out on stage. It not true though, MM didn't appear earlier because she WASN'T supposed to appear! The earlier intro's were supposed to tease the audience for the grande finale: Marilyn and the Happy Birthday Cake! The gag was all supposed to be for fun and was INTENTIONAL! The whole drunk story I guess just sounded better to those who wanted to depict MM as an out of control diva. Also, Marilyn was hardly dead-drunk considering how she was responsible for keeping her 80+ year-old father-in-law Isadore Miller company and bringing him home after the party.


4. To those of us who has a "tick", I thought it was rather surprising that MM herself had one! According to Haspiel, MM's tick was that when she opened the door at 155 East 93rd Street, the first thing she would do after stepping out of it, every time, as she stepped out on to the street, she would cup her hand in front of her mouth and cough into it, then she would look up. You could count on this, you could bet the house on it... according to Mr. Haspiel laughing.gif I just thought that was too cute!

Okay this is all for now, I'll add more later biggrin.gif [/b]
wow, i never knew those things... awww, she was such a kind and loving person
irinutza
did you know that the song teach me tiger is actually sung by april stevens, a songstress from the late 50s,not by marilyn
magda24
Did you know that Ethel Kennedy, Bobby's wife wanted Marilyn to portrait her in a movie( which was finally ne ver produced I think)?
marilynfanonline
What looks to be a scar on the image could possible be some sand from where she has been swimming in the sea and sitting on the sand?

I know her gall bladder scar was on her left side and quite high up as shown in some of the Bert Stern images smile1.gif

abeautifulchild
WHOA- look how much Marilyn and Jean Harlow had in common (besides the obvious laugh.gif ):

While attending a football game, Harlow pointed to a husky member of a team and said to Bern, her then husband, "Daddy, buy me that (Marilyn was known to call her husbands "Daddy" or "Pops," "Da," or "Pa.")

Jean was known as a voracious reader.


Had a habit of speaking of herself in the third person.


She suffered from a severe inferiority complex. If anyone did anything for her, she'd give them a present, expressing gratitude for practically nothing.


Never wore any underwear whatsoever

Never won an Oscar.

Always slept in the nude.

"I am not a party hound." - Jean Harlow

"Underwear makes me uncomfortable and besides my parts have to breathe." - Jean Harlow
dwane
wow that last quote by harlow is so similar to this one by marilyn: "I never wear stockings or underclothes because I think it is important to breathe freely."

and that thing about marilyn paying the boys to release the birds is so cute, something marilyn would have definately done.
mmmMarilyn
Just a side note Alex--and anybody else who cares,haha--in my english class this semester the professor went around the room and asked everybody a little about themselves and what their philosophy of life is and mine of course, is to "have self esteem, don't be stereotypical, walk around like you're a movie star, practice your autograph, and refer to yourself in the third person!" So I do that too! Might seem a bit cocky but it is just a habit and I never knew Harlow did it too, as well as MM--thanks for that info!! biggrin.gif
abeautifulchild
QUOTE(magda24 @ Mar 31 2008, 07:48 AM) *
Did you know that Ethel Kennedy, Bobby's wife wanted Marilyn to portrait her in a movie( which was finally ne ver produced I think)?



That is true irony. I wonder if it was really Ethel who was making those calls to Marilyn- "Leave Bobby alone, you tramp! Leave Bobby alone." :(

Did you know that Some Like It Hot, perhaps MM's most famous movie, was voted the funniest comedy ever?
abeautifulchild
Wow! Interesting:

- Actor Colin Farrell has admitted that, as a child, he would put sweets under his pillow for Monroe when she came down to visit from heaven.

- Marilyn's features are copyrighted to her estate, and are not allowed to be copied exactly

californiadude
Haha! I've read that too. Apparently he's a big fan. bye1.gif And, the copyright thing, thats why Franklin Mint can't have Marilyn's beauty spot on the right side, because of copyright.
abeautifulchild
laugh.gif I guess I'm the last to know!
magda24
*For one day the town of Monroe, New York was renamed Marilyn Monroe

* Rock Hudson was offered a part in Bus Stop (later played by Don Murray) but refused- he later confessed that he was too ashamed because he had once made a pass at Milton Greene and the offer had been turned down
Bobby
QUOTE(magda24 @ May 17 2008, 03:14 PM) *
*For one day the town of Monroe, New York was renamed Marilyn Monroe

* Rock Hudson was offered a part in Bus Stop (later played by Don Murray) but refused- he later confessed that he was too ashamed because he had once made a pass at Milton Greene and the offer had been turned down

I did not know that but thanks for posting, very interesting thumbup1.gif
magda24
You're welcome, Bobby. Another fact, but only loosely related (more like a Miller trivia):
He and Inge Morath had a son in 1966, who suffered Down syndrom and was institutionalized shortly after birth. Imagine Marilyn doing something like this?Miller was a cold man. Interesting article on this
http://www.vanityfair.com/fame/features/2007/09/miller200709
abeautifulchild
Marilyn was forbidden by Arthur Miller to lock the door to the bathroom in their house after her suicide attempt
Vicoria Hoffman 1975
I didnt think Milton Greene actually 'controlled' Marilyns money at that time because she wasnt actually getting any due to being suspended by the studio. It was his money he was giving her as well as her expenses and room at the hotel she lived at.

On the subject of animals I read in one of my books that she used to pay the fishermen to put back the little fish that were no good to them.
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