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Bobby
This is Marilyn's most successful and memorable film. It regularly appears in magazine and critics' lists as one of the very best comedies of all time and its popularity means it is the film that, more than any other, helps Marilyn reach a new audience outside her own fanbase. Her performance as Sugar Kane, a beautiful but unlucky-in-love singer in a jazz band, was a big hit at the box office and is surely her most famous role. Co-starring Tony Curtis and Jack Lemmon, Some Like it Hot is a masterpiece in comedy directed by the brilliant Billy Wilder.

How can you possibly not like this film? It's a joy to watch. The script is sensational and the acting top-notch. There's so many laugh out loud moments but none more so than the famous last line "Nobody's perfect" laugh.gif I know Marilyn famously had some troubles on the set but as Wilder himself said, it sure was worth it when you see the finished article. What did you think?
Tara
I have seen this more times than any other movie, so it has lost some of its novelty for me. But I never fail to be drawn in by its warmth and magic. Marilyn made what was a minor comedy part into something real and poignant. Marilyn was much smarter than Sugar, obviously, but I see so much of her in the character - the kind heart and innocent optimism despite constantly being let down by others. She's probably the most appealing character Marilyn ever played, IMO. I think Norman Mailer was right, without Marilyn it would be just a very funny movie. She gives it a heart and soul. A century from now, people will still be watching this movie and falling in love with Sugar Kane alias Marilyn.
Bobby
So very true, well said Tara, every word.

Do you think - and this may be controversial - that there's a parrallel to be made between some of Marilyn's early years in Hollywood and the scene where 'Junior' seduces 'Sugar' into passionate embraces?

magda24
I agree, without Marilyn it would be series of funny sketches without anything solid to bind them.
princesshapnick
This is my favourite movie of all time. It has two of my favourite stars - Marilyn Monroe and Jack Lemmon. In my opinion, they are two of the 'strongest' characters in the movie and I always smile at them whenever I watch this film. I have seen it too many times to count but I never get tired of it. It's a timeless feel-good movie, which is still magic.

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lorileime
Jack Lemmon is a master in this film and I'd watch it a thousand times just to see him. He's cracks me up every time. Marilyn is just "Sugar" on the cake, or do I mean icing? She's sweet, vulnerable, touching, funny, and child-like. What a genious she was to take a supporting role and turn it into her most memorable ever. She Sugar believable and loveable. One of my favorites.
dwane
this is one of my all time favorite movies of all time. marilyn is absoloutely amazing as sugar and i think that without her it would have been nothing. i can definately see why this is such a popular movie even today.
abeautifulchild
This was the first Marilyn movie I ever saw so it holds a special place in my heart. I just LOVE this movie! Marilyn was excellent, there's not much else to say. She took an idiot and made her lovable and real. She was SO funny and also angelic. So sweet. When I first saw her I was just absolutely amazed and stunned by her beauty and her voice- I remember she reminded me of a blonde Snow White. There's so many scenes that I love from this film- ALL the scenes on the train, when she first meets Junior, the seduction scene on the yacht was hilarious because it was the reversal of what you would have been expecting, and then there was Marilyn's singing which was great. I love how, for once, there is another actor whose talent is level with Marilyn's- Jack Lemmon. He was so funny and terrific as Daphne. He was far better than Tony Curtis was. IMO anyone could have played Joe/Josephine, but there was no one else who could have been Sugar or Daphne/Gerry. Billy Wilder was a genius, he really did a good job with this too. This movie was voted the funniest movie of all time, I believe, and rightly so! It ranks as my second favorite MM movie, definitely.
Katri^
This was also my first MM film I saw, and no wonder I became a fan! biggrin.gif Some like it hot is probably ( at least now ) my favorite MM movie. The thing that makes it good, is that the characters aren't so, you know, plain. Now it's not only about Marilyn (though I don't mind if it were so). The performances were more equal, and it's not so in many of her films. She usually outshines everyone else completely, but now, for example, Jack Lemmon is amazing too!

I love the story, and the characters are so funny, especially Sugar and Daphne/Jerry biggrin.gif
princesshapnick
Yes, I would say that my favourite characters are Sugar and Jerry/Daphne! marilynbybrandon_190.gif
JanCollector
Brilliant film, her absolute best.
lorelei
This is the 1-st Marilyn movie that i've watched.
So it's just great movie!
Elsie Marina
This was the first Marilyn film I ever saw as well! laugh.gif

This is rightfully one of the greatest comedies of all time IMO, so many funny lines, also when I try to convert people to become Marilyn fans, this si the film I use! laugh.gif
Brigitte
I Love this film! I just watched it last night and I can't beleive that dress! Wowza!Click to view attachment
princesshapnick
She looks fabulous in this movie and I'm sure it's pretty hard to get away with wearing the dresses that she did in this film!
mmmMarilyn
I just watched it yesterday too, and that dress was just the most magical thing ever....it like, defies gravity and nature and a million other things, and yet she still looks adorable and precious in it, while if somebody showed up on a red carpet today--somebody lacking the qualities that she had--we'd probably say, YIKES!!!!! Put some clothes on! hahaha, this movie is pure genius, so hilarious, and I could watch it a million times and still laugh like it was the first.
princesshapnick
QUOTE(mmmMarilyn @ Jul 14 2008, 12:03 PM) *
I just watched it yesterday too, and that dress was just the most magical thing ever....it like, defies gravity and nature and a million other things, and yet she still looks adorable and precious in it, while if somebody showed up on a red carpet today--somebody lacking the qualities that she had--we'd probably say, YIKES!!!!! Put some clothes on! hahaha, this movie is pure genius, so hilarious, and I could watch it a million times and still laugh like it was the first.



I totally agree to everything you mentioned!! Yesterday, I watched the two documentaries on the Collector's Edition DVD. I just love to watch them every now and then! Just seeing everybody talk about the film, especially how wonderful MM was in the film, makes me smile!
dwane
there's one thing i've always wondered, if the band called for ONLY blondes why did josephine (tony curtis) have brown hair? maybe i just missed something in the movie that states that they (sweet sue) didn't care what hair color the girl had, just as long as she could play the saxaphone. i hope all this makes sense, haha.

it just doesn't make sense to me, if they only wanted blondes why did tony curtis wear a brown wig? wouldn't it have made more sense if it were blonde?
Vicoria Hoffman 1975
I always wondered that too about the wig! I thought perhaps it was a different shade of blonde that didnt show up well in b&w til I saw a colour still of it. Maybe she was just glad of someone turning up.

I do wish Marilyns 'I wanna be loved by you' had more of her singing it though. Josephine and Daphne seem to be talking through most of the end of it til the last line! (and it is probably her second most famous song!)
lorileime
QUOTE(dwane @ Aug 4 2008, 04:52 PM) *
there's one thing i've always wondered, if the band called for ONLY blondes why did josephine (tony curtis) have brown hair? maybe i just missed something in the movie that states that they (sweet sue) didn't care what hair color the girl had, just as long as she could play the saxaphone. i hope all this makes sense, haha.

it just doesn't make sense to me, if they only wanted blondes why did tony curtis wear a brown wig? wouldn't it have made more sense if it were blonde?

Tell me please, where in the movie it says they all had to be blonde. I missed that all together.
dwane
it's at the beginning, it's been a while since i've seen it but i think when they went into that office and the guy said "you need to be blonde... and girl!"
abeautifulchild
Didn't Jack Lemmon wear a red wig too? blink.gif
dwane
his was more of a blonde tone.
lorileime
QUOTE(dwane @ Aug 4 2008, 06:20 PM) *
it's at the beginning, it's been a while since i've seen it but i think when they went into that office and the guy said "you need to be blonde... and girl!"
Right. I have to go watch it again. blush.gif
QUOTE(lorileime @ Aug 5 2008, 04:07 PM) *
Right. I have to go watch it again. blush.gif
You gotta be under 25-we can pass for that**You gotta be blonde-we can dye our hair**and you gotta be girls-we can...no we can't. This is such a funny movie. clapping.gif
abeautifulchild
QUOTE(dwane @ Aug 5 2008, 01:22 AM) *
his was more of a blonde tone.


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But look, Dwane...
princesshapnick
I always thought Jack wore a blonde wig, but just scanning through my colour SLIH photos, they are mostly red-ish wigs! I always only thought that Tony Curtis had the darker coloured wig. But in black and white, it looks more blonde...

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Bobby
Daphne also tells Osgood in the motorboat at the end of the picture, that he/she isn't "a natural blonde".
lorileime
Dapne was a strawberry blonde. Maybe she was Irish!
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dwane
QUOTE(abeautifulchild @ Aug 6 2008, 05:49 AM) *
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But look, Dwane...



it does look very red there but as tony said, it was probably more of a strawberry blonde.
abeautifulchild
QUOTE(dwane @ Aug 7 2008, 12:30 AM) *
it does look very red there but as tony said, it was probably more of a strawberry blonde.


Ah, that makes perfect sense guys.
lorileime
You know, you can't really go by what the color pictures look like anyway. When they filmed The Wizard of Oz, Dorothy's white blouse in the black and white parts of the movie was actually pink in color. Then, for the color shots, it was a different blouse that was actually white. I think they did that so the white blouse wouldn't show up too white in black and white and get too washed out. So, I guess in black and white movies, different colors produce different shades of black and white and grey. Strawberry blonds is a more subdued blonde than Marilyn's white blonde. And to us, it just shows up as two different shades of blonde.
abeautifulchild
QUOTE(lorileime @ Aug 7 2008, 03:10 AM) *
You know, you can't really go by what the color pictures look like anyway. When they filmed The Wizard of Oz, Dorothy's white blouse in the black and white parts of the movie was actually pink in color. Then, for the color shots, it was a different blouse that was actually white. I think they did that so the white blouse wouldn't show up too white in black and white and get too washed out. So, I guess in black and white movies, different colors produce different shades of black and white and grey. Strawberry blonds is a more subdued blonde than Marilyn's white blonde. And to us, it just shows up as two different shades of blonde.


Excellent point, Tony. Never thought of that!

I've noticed too that some of the girls' hair in Sweet Sue's band do seem to have the same shade of Marilyn's hair in B&W, but in color it's a different story...

And boy, that really came as a shock to me RE: The Wizard of Oz!
princesshapnick
Oh! Of course! Strawberry blonde! That does make perfect sense.
lorileime
QUOTE(abeautifulchild @ Aug 6 2008, 10:38 PM) *
Excellent point, Tony. Never thought of that!

I've noticed too that some of the girls' hair in Sweet Sue's band do seem to have the same shade of Marilyn's hair in B&W, but in color it's a different story...

And boy, that really came as a shock to me RE: The Wizard of Oz!

It also depends on what kind of color film and the type of processing you're using. In 1939, it was very different than 1959, but I'm sure that different shades of white, beige, ivory, gray taupe all looked like different shades of 'white' on black and white film.
nino89
It was on tv this morning biggrin.gif I saw it for ...I don't know....8-9 time?? And ofcorse I like it biggrin.gif Everytime more biggrin.gif She is realy great in it smile1.gif 
princesshapnick
Yes! I caught the last ten minutes or so of it early in the morning and I also saw the whole of the beach sequence when it was repeated later on so I decided to get out my copy of the collector's edition and watched the special features - for the millionth time! coolio.gif
magda24
Here you can see both Jack's and Tony's wigs
nino89
QUOTE(princesshapnick @ Aug 31 2008, 07:08 PM) *
Yes! I caught the last ten minutes or so of it early in the morning and I also saw the whole of the beach sequence when it was repeated later on so I decided to get out my copy of the collector's edition and watched the special features - for the millionth time! coolio.gif


It was in England too??  clapping.gif I'm from Serbia, FOX played it biggrin.gif It was realy great biggrin.gif I love to see her movies on tv biggrin.gif  banana.gif
Bobby
I watched SLIH again this week and I had a thought. When Sugar plays the ukulele on the train (during Runnin' Wild), it sort of works. But can you possibly imagine seeing Marilyn in that eye-poppingly risqué silver gown, sitting amongst the other band members strumming on the ukulele?! No wonder there were no scenes like that; it just wouldn't look believeable! laugh.gif
princesshapnick
Has anyone noticed how Billy Wilder plays an extra in this film? At least I think it's him. It was in the scene where we first see Marilyn and she's walking along the platform. There's a guy walking behind her and he eventually boards the train through a door just behind Jack and Tony. Of course, we are constantly looking at this beautiful woman that is Sugar Kane that we wouldn't have noticed him, so I wonder if it was him? A clever thing if he did! Check it out and tell me what you think.

There was a discussion on IMDb about this. I was wondering if anybody here noticed it. coolio.gif
audreyfan1
QUOTE(princesshapnick @ Jan 16 2009, 01:00 PM) *
Has anyone noticed how Billy Wilder plays an extra in this film? At least I think it's him. It was in the scene where we first see Marilyn and she's walking along the platform. There's a guy walking behind her and he eventually boards the train through a door just behind Jack and Tony.


I've never noticed that before! Next time I watch the movie, I'll definitely watch for it. Thanks!
MarilynKissesxoxo
QUOTE(Elsie Marina @ Jun 17 2008, 11:41 AM) *
This was the first Marilyn film I ever saw as well! laugh.gif

This is rightfully one of the greatest comedies of all time IMO, so many funny lines, also when I try to convert people to become Marilyn fans, this si the film I use! laugh.gif


i agree, my friend watched the film and now she loves Marilyn even more, i didn't even ask her to she chose Some like it hot, which makes me happy smile1.gif
madmouth
A brilliant film that reminds me every time of what Hollywood's lost--not least of which is a woman who can wear a dress like that (there hasn't been one since).
NormaJeanLove.
Hands down this probably has to be my fave marilyn movie. so classically funny, just all around good fun, and everyone loves it. But i can tell the difference between wilder's films, we were actually studying him in film class this week. this is probably one of my faves by him.
princesshapnick
I've often wondered what the boys' full names were in the film - and thanks to the 50th Companion book, I now know.

Jerry Bigelow and Joe Marlow!

Interesting names indeed! Bit of movie trivia for you all there. coolio.gif

Oh, and there's also screencaps of a deleted scene (not the one from the train), one where the boys are in the hospital, giving Jerry a blood transfusion which was supposed to happen at the start of the movie. thumbup1.gif
Scottish Sugar
That's awesome about the second names, I find it fascintaing that we're still finiding out new things about a movie released 50 years ago! smile1.gif

I have both the new SLIH books, but just back from holiday so haven't had a chance to even look at them yet, will do that now maybe... I'd quite like to read Tony's book first actually, no matter what people think of him or say about him, he WAS a major part of that movie so I can't wait to hear his side of the story (but of course I'll be reading it with a pinch of salt)

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princesshapnick
I love knowing their full names now! biggrin.gif

Yes, I have both the new books as well. I'm so happy to finally get a book about SLIH that I can look back through every so often and cheer me up if need be. I'd have been so happy with one, let alone two! But I love to be able to add to my Marilyn/Jack collection. coolio.gif

I started on Tony's book first as that was the first to arrive. A lot of stuff, I find myself tutting or saying: "Seriously, Tony?". Some of the "events" or words that he claims came out of Marilyn's mouth seem totally unbelieveable to me. I think he bizarrely has something against her, despite his claims of an affair/baby/whatever.

And the trouble is, I really like Tony as an actor, especially in SLIH and The Great Race with Jack Lemmon. And he seemed so close to Jack as well.
Scottish Sugar
I wouldn't say I'm a Tony Curtis fan, I'm a Tony Curtis in SLIH fan. My love and appreciation for him is purely based on his involvement in that film. I've decided when I start reading the book, I'm going to treat it like a work of fiction, because I'm sure a lot of the truth is stretched.
Have you read his autobiography? he comes across as a really sad, old man now, he's so bitter that his career never went the way he thought it should and he hates the fact that he's not considered a "legend" among the other greats such as Gable and Astaire.
It was a fantastic read though, I finished it in a couple of days and I never read books that often.
xx
Tara
I watched SLIH again yesterday, I've probably seen it more often than any other film. Enjoyed it as much as ever, I think Sugar is the most adorable character Marilyn ever played. So many great performances in fact. I find it a little hard to watch Tony nowadays because of the way he talks about Marilyn, but he is great in it as well. I like a few of his films - especially The Defiant Ones - so it's a shame he's grown bitter. I think he's jealous of Marilyn's fame. I think he is likely very similar to the characters he played, vain and selfish. But then again, nobody's perfect I guess. I'll probably buy the 50th Companion sometime but maybe not Tony's book, though I would probably borrow it from the library.
princesshapnick
^I'm going to watch it tonight as I'm having a Jack Lemmon movie marathon tonight as I have the day off work tomorrow. Good times! thumbup1.gif

The 50th Companion book is very much worth buying, much more than Tony's. I suspect it's like a mini version of the Taschen book. I was showing it to my stepmum as she likes the film too and she wanted to see some color photos of the guys in drag. And she said it was a beautiful-looking book and I agree. It's currently standing up against the wall on my shelf in my bedroom!

I've just finished Tony's book, actually. In some cases, he has repeated himself from his many TV interviews (the 'nice-looking ass' incident with Marilyn and how he didn't mean to say 'kissing Hitler' in a bad way) but I suggest you take a read of it anyway. There are a couple of things in there that he talked about that I'm not entirely sure happened, such as a fight with Arthur Miller on the SLIH set. unsure.gif
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