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Posted by: eddie Jun 17 2005, 04:58 PM

Does anyone know much about Mr Rosenfeld. I've read about him in "Goddess" By Anthony Summers but I am not convinced he was really good friends with Marilyn. I believe maybe he helped her with dresses and finances when she came to New York but i think he is exagerating his relationship. What do you think?

Posted by: Tara Jun 17 2005, 07:34 PM

I've often wondered about him. I've never even seen a photo of him, yet I've read in more than one book about his alleged relationship with MM.

Posted by: Fav Jun 18 2005, 09:31 PM

Is this guy him? I'm not sure if it is or isn't. For some reason this Carl Perutz photo came to mind. Please correct if it is not and who it is. My understanding of Henry Rosenfeld was that he was a life long friend to her. It was an interesting friendship. I believe that at one point he wanted to marry her.

 

Posted by: Tara Jun 19 2005, 12:47 PM

Fav, I found that photo in Susan Strasberg's book (Marilyn & Me). The man is named as 'Warren Fischer, a secret friend she often met on Fridays for drinks at the St Regis Hotel'. unsure.gif

Posted by: Fav Jun 19 2005, 01:56 PM

Ahhhhhhhh, fantastic, thanks Tara. I will have to now go look up Warren Fischer! balloon.gif

Posted by: Nettie Aug 11 2005, 04:19 AM

In Marilyn The Ultimate Legend
by James Haspiel Pg 70

"Back then there was a wealthy businessman named Henry Resenfeld who knew Marilyn. One sunny day I witnessed Henry and Marilyn in the midst of a personal encounter that was quite disturbing to me at the time. Marilyn was standing in the outer doorway to the Waldorf Towers, in the middle of the afternoon, wearing a greyish dress that had the look of a simple house dress, Rosenfeld standing in front of her in his eternally tired-looking dark blue suit, white shirt, and red tie (red ties seemed to be Rosenfeld's 'signature'), and Henry was very casually reaching over and stroking Marilyn's buttocks! What disturbed me more than the action themselves was that she would just stand there and allow this to happen so publicly, because even though I was the sole witness to this moment, anybody else could be pasing by. It seemed to me that it was wrong, publicly at least; and especially so given the morals of the time. The gestures were too obvioulsy in intimate as far as I was concerned, and while I can offer no opinionas to just how intimate she may or may not have been to Henry Rosenfeld, it bothered me that she would stand there in so public a setting while Henry transmitted his feelings in Braille! Rosenfeld was a genuinely good friend of Monroe's, I'm certain of this, but his actions didn't strike me as being fatherly. The atmosphere was charged with sexual overtones, obviously, and it seemed clear that Marilyn was bent on standing in that doorway until Rosenfeld took his leave and she could return to Suite 2728 solo. Certainly by now Monroe had accumulated vast experience in how to handle that inevitable situation involving the overly aroused male."


In George Barris' book it says Henry Rosenfeld was a "businessman and confidant."

(Summers, 45) Garment millionaire Henry Rosenfeld was another Jewish sex partner on Marilyn's road to fame. "She would join Rosenfeld at his home in Atlantic City for trips in his speedboat and for quiet evenings of talk and laughter"

Dynamo's Digest
1962: Marilyn called Henry Rosenfeld regarding her plans for a three-day New York trip in early September. She planned to give a dinner party in Washingtion D.C., and wanted Rosenfeld to be her escort at the opening of the Irving Berlin musical "Mr. President." She had ordered a $6,000.00 gown from Jean-Louis for the occasion

Marilyn The Last Days by Donald H. Wolfe
"Marilyn was seeing many different men other than Arthur Miller. She was frequently in the company of Henry Rosenfeld, a wealthy dress manufacturer she had met in New York during the Love Happy tour. It was Rosenfeld who arranged for Marilyn to move into the Waldorf Towers."

Posted by: glaze_p Dec 15 2008, 11:22 AM

marilynbybrandon_190.gif Henry Rosenfeld:marilynkiss:



 

Posted by: Nettie Dec 16 2008, 03:38 AM

Awesome Paul. Thank you. A face to the name finally. clapping.gif clapping.gif

Posted by: Tara Dec 16 2008, 02:47 PM

Notes apparently from Rosenfeld to Marilyn, currently up for auction at Bonham's...

A Marilyn Monroe-received group of letters from Henry Rosenfeld, circa 1955
Three short notes all penned in blue ballpoint ink on lined notebook paper; undated but probably from the time when MM first moved to NYC. The first reads in full "Miss Maryln [sic] Monroe, / This is to certify that I have / purchased for Miss Monroe one unit / of Mr. Johnston for $2300 as a / gift and all profits and returns / are Miss Monroe's and will be / sent to her as received by me. / Henry Rosenfeld;" the second reads in full "Please do not tell Milton [Greene] / as I have not told him;" the third reads in full "Darling, / I have just bought / your birthday present / a Diamond Bracelet. It('s) beautiful / about 200 carats. I hope you / will like it. I want you / to be happy above everything else / in the world. / Always and always / Henry."

http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/public.sh/pubweb/publicSite.r?sContinent=EUR&screen=lotdetailsNoFlash&iSaleItemNo=4049645&iSaleNo=16151&iSaleSectionNo=1

 

Posted by: Marilyn-fan87 Dec 16 2008, 03:29 PM

he was her fashion designer or personal Stylist?

Posted by: Tara Dec 16 2008, 04:40 PM

QUOTE(Marilyn-fan87 @ Dec 16 2008, 02:29 PM) *
he was her fashion designer or personal Stylist?


Not officially, but I think he did give her some clothes. I think she met him on her first trip to New York in 1949. James Haspiel saw Rosenfeld with Marilyn once in 1955, and was in no doubt that he was attracted to her. How she felt about him is harder to tell. It would have changed anyway after she became involved with Arthur later that year. I seem to remember reading that Marilyn approached Rosenfeld to invest in MMP, not sure if he did though. Makes the reference to Milton quite interesting. Rosenfeld also claims to have spoken to Marilyn a few days before she died. I find it intriguing that there are still aspects of Marilyn's life that we know very little about. Maybe that's how it should be... marilynbybrandon_190.gif

Posted by: eddie Dec 23 2008, 12:43 PM

Hmm...hard to tell, but it doesn't sound like its too romantic....quite formal actually.

I think Marilyn actually mentioned this gift in a letter to Arthur too.

Posted by: suusmarie Jun 18 2012, 01:32 AM

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Posted by: RockLives Jun 3 2013, 11:49 PM

Here is the true story, and I was indeed there.
Henry and Marilyn were lovers. The Atlantic City was erroneous, it was Atlantic Beach, New York. Marilyn visited that house and the apartment in New York to be with Henry.
It was a one year affair. and some of the pictures quoted on this thread were not of Henry.
Oh Henrys uniform suit was Navy Blue, with a Blue not white shirt and Red tie.
Theywere indeed intimate..The Waldorf was also a hook up site..

QUOTE(Nettie @ Aug 10 2005, 11:19 PM) *
In Marilyn The Ultimate Legend
by James Haspiel Pg 70

"Back then there was a wealthy businessman named Henry Resenfeld who knew Marilyn. One sunny day I witnessed Henry and Marilyn in the midst of a personal encounter that was quite disturbing to me at the time. Marilyn was standing in the outer doorway to the Waldorf Towers, in the middle of the afternoon, wearing a greyish dress that had the look of a simple house dress, Rosenfeld standing in front of her in his eternally tired-looking dark blue suit, white shirt, and red tie (red ties seemed to be Rosenfeld's 'signature'), and Henry was very casually reaching over and stroking Marilyn's buttocks! What disturbed me more than the action themselves was that she would just stand there and allow this to happen so publicly, because even though I was the sole witness to this moment, anybody else could be pasing by. It seemed to me that it was wrong, publicly at least; and especially so given the morals of the time. The gestures were too obvioulsy in intimate as far as I was concerned, and while I can offer no opinionas to just how intimate she may or may not have been to Henry Rosenfeld, it bothered me that she would stand there in so public a setting while Henry transmitted his feelings in Braille! Rosenfeld was a genuinely good friend of Monroe's, I'm certain of this, but his actions didn't strike me as being fatherly. The atmosphere was charged with sexual overtones, obviously, and it seemed clear that Marilyn was bent on standing in that doorway until Rosenfeld took his leave and she could return to Suite 2728 solo. Certainly by now Monroe had accumulated vast experience in how to handle that inevitable situation involving the overly aroused male."


In George Barris' book it says Henry Rosenfeld was a "businessman and confidant."

(Summers, 45) Garment millionaire Henry Rosenfeld was another Jewish sex partner on Marilyn's road to fame. "She would join Rosenfeld at his home in Atlantic City for trips in his speedboat and for quiet evenings of talk and laughter"

Dynamo's Digest
1962: Marilyn called Henry Rosenfeld regarding her plans for a three-day New York trip in early September. She planned to give a dinner party in Washingtion D.C., and wanted Rosenfeld to be her escort at the opening of the Irving Berlin musical "Mr. President." She had ordered a $6,000.00 gown from Jean-Louis for the occasion

Marilyn The Last Days by Donald H. Wolfe
"Marilyn was seeing many different men other than Arthur Miller. She was frequently in the company of Henry Rosenfeld, a wealthy dress manufacturer she had met in New York during the Love Happy tour. It was Rosenfeld who arranged for Marilyn to move into the Waldorf Towers."

Posted by: meganmarilyn Jun 4 2013, 01:33 AM

QUOTE(RockLives @ Jun 3 2013, 03:49 PM) *
Here is the true story, and I was indeed there.
Henry and Marilyn were lovers.


I'll take MM's word. Until proven positive otherwise.

Posted by: Nettie Jun 7 2013, 04:49 AM

As Tara mentioned above:

“Rosenfeld was very taken with Marilyn, but he simply was not the major investor Greene desperately needed. He declined to bankroll Marilyn Monroe Productions. At length, all Greene managed to wheedle out of Rosenfeld was some cash to help pay her hotel bills. In the end, Greene had asked Marilyn to flash her thousand-watt personality for nothing more than rent money. Afterward, she and Joe drove back to New York. Greene returned to Connecticut in defeat.”
— Barbara Leaming, Marilyn Monroe

Lucille Lortel: The Queen of Off Broadway
By Alexis Greene

"Bad or good, at the Saturday performance on August 27 the audience was probably more intrigued by a celebrity in their midst. Her blonde hair pinned haphazardly in a twist, and wearing a simple sleeveless white blouse and black skirt, Marilyn Monroe arrived at the White Barn escorted by the writer Norman Rosten and by Henry Rosenfeld, identified in a local newspaper as the "dress king". Lucille sat demurely behind the table as Monroe leaned over to sign the guest book. Nan Kruelewitch, who was an apprentice that summer from the Fields School in New York City, remembered that during the intermission everyone stared at the exquisite film star, who stood downstairs in the Green Room talking with the Schweitzer's housekeeper, Rosamund Bennett. "

"The White Barn had its own style and its own audience. "Artsy-craftsy." was how Elizabeth Stearns, a stage manager and lighting designer who apprenticed there in the mid-1950s, described the ambiance. But it was very elitist, so that Marilyn Monroe would show up, and Actor Studio people would show up."

The Sunday Herald
June 10, 1956

"We have in our files the photo of Marilyn Monroe and Norman Rosten, the poet-playwright, at the White Barn last summer 1955."

Posted by: Joan Newman Feb 15 2015, 07:37 AM

[quote name='Nettie' date='Jun 7 2013, 03:49 AM' post='222763']
As Tara mentioned above:

http://blog.everlasting-star.net/2015/01/art-and-photography/marilyn-linked-to-white-barn-theatre/

Marilyn Monroe signs the guest book of The White Barn Theatre, Connecticut c. 1955 clapping.gif

 

Posted by: Stacy♥ Feb 16 2015, 02:52 AM

amazing photo Nettie!

Posted by: Joan Newman Feb 16 2015, 06:40 AM

So, this picture that Suus posted of "MM and Norman",here:
http://www.everlasting-star.net/boards/?showtopic=6843&st=20
is the picture :

"We have in our files the photo of Marilyn Monroe and Norman Rosten, the poet-playwright, at the White Barn last summer 1955."


 

Posted by: Stacy♥ Feb 24 2015, 01:19 AM

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Posted by: Joan Newman Jun 30 2016, 06:00 AM

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September 4, 1955

Between Marilyn Monroe's two escorts at the White Barn last week-end playwright Norman Rosten and dress king Henry Rosenfeld, we'd say the latter was the one with the stars in his eyes.



 

Posted by: Joan Newman Sep 19 2016, 05:14 AM

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May 27, 1958
Rosenfeld Scents a Reaction

Rosenfeld says a chemise should never be worn to look like a sack. "It must have shape, and that's why every one I make is supplied with a belt."
A model floated past in a cotton Rosenfeld trapeze, and he interrupted himself to say : "Marilyn Monroe bought 20 of them- she's my best friend and customer."

May 27, 1959
Miss Monroe's Designer Tells All

"Good fabrics, most of them wash-and-wear for summer, and good workmanship give them a high-priced look. That's really the secret," he smiled.
And does Marilyn Monroe buy the same dress at the same prices you sell them in stores ?
"She does and has been for seven years.
You know movie stars have to watch their budgets too. Sometimes I make a style in a different fabric for her. Red is her favorite color and she likes her clothes to show off her figure. "

December 1973
JFK-Monroe romance

Marilyn Monroe has been having a romance with President John F. Kennedy for almost a year when she died, veteran syndicated columnist Earl Wilson reported this week in a new book.

Marilyn had been trying to arrange another rendezvous with Kennedy through a mutual friend, New York textile manufacturer Henry Rosenfeld, the week she died in Aug. 5, 1962, at the age of 36. She was anxious to go to Washington for the opening of the play, Mr. President, using Rosenfeld as a cover date to get together with Kennedy.

Rosenfeld, who was a Monroe confidant, said, according to Wilson, the film star was in love with the president but he did not think the affair was important to the chief executive.

http://www.nytimes.com/1964/06/10/7th-ave-story-prodigy-mellows.html?_r=0


 

Posted by: CYRILPARIS Sep 19 2016, 02:30 PM

QUOTE(Joan Newman @ Sep 19 2016, 06:14 AM) *
bye1.gif

May 27, 1958
Rosenfeld Scents a Reaction

Rosenfeld says a chemise should never be worn to look like a sack. "It must have shape, and that's why every one I make is supplied with a belt."
A model floated past in a cotton Rosenfeld trapeze, and he interrupted himself to say : "Marilyn Monroe bought 20 of them- she's my best friend and customer."

May 27, 1959
Miss Monroe's Designer Tells All

"Good fabrics, most of them wash-and-wear for summer, and good workmanship give them a high-priced look. That's really the secret," he smiled.
And does Marilyn Monroe buy the same dress at the same prices you sell them in stores ?
"She does and has been for seven years.
You know movie stars have to watch their budgets too. Sometimes I make a style in a different fabric for her. Red is her favorite color and she likes her clothes to show off her figure. "

December 1963
JFK-Monroe romance

Marilyn Monroe has been having a romance with President John F. Kennedy for almost a year when she died, veteran syndicated columnist Earl Wilson reported this week in a new book.

Marilyn had been trying to arrange another rendezvous with Kennedy through a mutual friend, New York textile manufacturer Henry Rosenfeld, the week she died in Aug. 5, 1962, at the age of 36. She was anxious to go to Washington for the opening of the play, Mr. President, using Rosenfeld as a cover date to get together with Kennedy.

Rosenfeld, who was a Monroe confidant, said, according to Wilson, the film star was in love with the president but he did not think the affair was important to the chief executive.


coolio.gif December 1973 not 1963

Posted by: Joan Newman Sep 19 2016, 03:36 PM

Wow ! It's been a long time since I read some of my Marilyn books. I never knew they were that close. I wonder why we have no pictures of them ? Not even one.

Goddess The Secret Lives of Marilyn Monroe

"Arthur was upset by the expensive diamond bracelet Henry Rosenfeld gave her. "

 

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