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Posted by: pinup Apr 13 2007, 12:35 PM

I was reading in the official board a while ago that someone was trying to get a petition together for her body to be exhumed and test done to determine the real cause of death. Ive not heard anything since that though does anyone else know about it?? I dont know if its a good thing, I would LOVE to know the EXACT cause of death but i dont believe she should be disturbed, she should be left to rest in peace, can you imagine the paparatzzi frenzy if it did?? What does everyone else think? huh.gif

Posted by: Katri^ Apr 13 2007, 01:32 PM

I've heard and talked about this before, I just don't remember where did I hear about this... But I agree with you, I'd love to know the reason for her death, but I want her to rest in peace. No thanks for the scandal articles in magazines and so on... no.gif I don't want that for MM.

Posted by: dwane Apr 13 2007, 06:11 PM

i have heard about this. i think we all want to know what really killed marilyn but i think they should leave her body alone. just let her rest in peace.

Posted by: pinup Apr 14 2007, 11:02 PM

yes I agree i think it would be like a freak show if they did I can imagine the story on E! Entertainment!! I wonder what happened to the petition then? It must have been forgotten about

Posted by: Fav Apr 16 2007, 09:46 PM

This may be to do with the John Miner 'tapes' in 2005.

http://www.cmgww.com/news/viewheadline.php?id=3510

Posted by: pinup Apr 16 2007, 11:09 PM

Does anyone have the actual article they are talking about?? What did marilyn say when she saw hugh used the pictures?? Its werid that Hugh is talking about her and also has bought a grave next to her when they didnt even meet!

Posted by: jennie2000 Apr 17 2007, 12:33 AM

I believe her body is dead and her soul is somewhere else, so I am all for digging up her body to find out what really happened. If people really need to know, and apparantly they do, or there wouldn't be threads like this. I can not believe it haven't been done before actually, So what if it turns into a freak show? Her soul and her spirit isn't there. She won't hurt! She's gone to another place already! I am actually one of the few people in the world who believe the body of hers should be taken out of its crypt and be examined. I think there is a need for it. And come on, Hugh Hefner laying his dead body next to Marilyns?? She's already dead! She's not there anymore! So what if he lays his wrinkly old skin next to her already rotten one! Get real! She's gone!

Posted by: brandonheidrick Apr 17 2007, 01:53 AM

The examinations should have been conducted properly in the first place, back in 1962. It wasn't. After all these years, it would be difficult to discover anything new. Even if something new was discovered, what good would it do now? It would remove the stigma of suicide or probable suicide, but what does that accomplish? Anyone else who may have been responsible is now gone. Personally, I feel it's all a matter of giving those that cared about her, or care about her peace of mind in knowing exactly what happened. But, I feel that exhuming her body in order to do so would probably disturb more people than it would relieve. Especially if nothing new was found. People have certain ideas and beliefs about burial, and many think that the dead should not be disturbed. I think my greatest fear in an exhumation would be someone snapping photos of her dead body and throwing them into every major tabloid ... which would be the ultimate disrespect. But hey, this is all just my opinion.

Posted by: jemaniac Apr 17 2007, 01:55 AM

Not everybody sees it that way Molly.

I for one think she should be left alone.

Posted by: dwane Apr 17 2007, 01:57 AM

they should just leave her body be. i believe that once someone is layed to rest it should be permanant, they shouldn't be disturbed. it would disturb me personally knowing that marilyn would be out of her final resting place.

Posted by: missmarilyn Apr 17 2007, 02:12 AM

I completely disagree and not for getting her body "exhumed". If I was dead, I wouldn't want people poking and proding at my mummified skin and making it a total freak show.

Posted by: jennie2000 Apr 17 2007, 02:25 AM

QUOTE(jemaniac @ Apr 17 2007, 01:55 AM) [snapback]131653[/snapback]
Not everybody sees it that way Molly.

I for one think she should be left alone.


Sorry if I offended anyone. That was what I thought. And I still think a dead body is just a dead body. I saw my grandmother when she had been dead for two weeks, and she wasn't there at all. And the funeral guys had done something horrible to her hair, but when she complained, she wasn't complaining from her body, I could hear her voice from somewhere above. I think a person only lends a body to use while on earth, the body is not the person. The soul/real person goes somewhere else, and if someone wants to poke around on "my" body when I'm dead, I wouldn't mind. I won't be there.

Posted by: meganmarilyn Apr 17 2007, 09:37 AM

Marilyn gave HER LIFE when she was alive to us. She let us photograph her 24/7, follow her around, any privacy she had she gave to her public. I just think sometimes you have to give someone respect and show them that same respect even when they have passed away. I can understand if Marilyn had a close family member or sibling that wanted answers and went that route, but who are we to ask of something like this? Marilyn earned the right for eternal peace. And her body should be shown the same respect.

Posted by: Katri^ Apr 17 2007, 01:25 PM

Well said Megan! clapping.gif

Posted by: meztisa Apr 17 2007, 11:22 PM

I really wish that if Marilyn were to be appreciated today, she should be appreciated for her life, not her death. May she rest in peace. I don't think any one will ever know the real cause of her death.

Posted by: Marloes Apr 19 2007, 01:16 PM

Of course I would like to know what happened to her, but to examine her body after such a long time, I don't know. Just leave it be I think.

Posted by: Katri^ Apr 19 2007, 07:04 PM

I don't think there would be so much new to come if something would be done...

Posted by: jennie2000 Apr 19 2007, 07:39 PM

Oh come on people, her body has been dead for ages and her soul is in a happier place. Her gift was her body yes but see it for what it is now, rotting, if not already a sceleton. How many of you have actually really seen a dear one dead? Then you will know, their soul is no longer there. It isnt! It is gone where they were the happiest and that is that. If people caring about such things would like to know, then why not let them.
A dead body is a dead body, no matter what the title was on the toe when it was brought in.
I believe Marilyn/ Norma Jeane is in her happiest place right now (and none of us will never know where that is), and I don't think she really cares what people does to the body she leant to be here on earth.
Sorry (not) to the people here who are so superficial and shallow and believe that the body is so important, and do believe that Marilyn would in her death be so concerned about such issues as where her dead body ended up.I beleive she would be more concerned someone who loved her got in charge of it.
Dig the body up I say and quiten the ignorant, who always beleived she were a victim..

Posted by: meganmarilyn Apr 20 2007, 03:43 AM

It depends on whose religious beliefs you have. The soul is connected to the body. Yes, Marilyn's soul may not be there anymore, but it is still her body. It is still the temple in which her soul once resided. If we don't show respect towards her body and just treat it as another piece of flesh that we can do with it as we please, what does that say about us? Once again, we don't have any right to touch her body or do as we please. We aren't a relative of hers. If we were somehow related to her, then we might have a right to say our views in the court system. But we don't. I myself think Marilyn took great pride for her body when she was alive. This isn't some jane doe, this is America's princess we are talking about, Marilyn Monroe. If her own fans don't have respect for her remains, who on earth will?

I guess we should just dig up Abraham Lincoln's body and parade his head at the circus, hey we can get top dollar for that! Some people see the human body as just a piece of meat on a packing line like below, not me....


QUOTE(jennie2000 @ Apr 19 2007, 11:39 AM) [snapback]131862[/snapback]
Oh come on people, her body has been dead for ages and her soul is in a happier place. Her gift was her body yes but see it for what it is now, rotting, if not already a sceleton. How many of you have actually really seen a dear one dead? Then you will know, their soul is no longer there. It isnt! It is gone where they were the happiest and that is that. If people caring about such things would like to know, then why not let them.
A dead body is a dead body, no matter what the title was on the toe when it was brought in.
I believe Marilyn/ Norma Jeane is in her happiest place right now (and none of us will never know where that is), and I don't think she really cares what people does to the body she leant to be here on earth.
Sorry (not) to the people here who are so superficial and shallow and believe that the body is so important, and do believe that Marilyn would in her death be so concerned about such issues as where her dead body ended up.I beleive she would be more concerned someone who loved her got in charge of it.
Dig the body up I say and quiten the ignorant, who always beleived she were a victim..


 

Posted by: marked77 May 7 2007, 04:23 AM

NO WAY

I SAW A MAN IN THE DOC MARILYN LIFE AFTER DEATH AND HE SAID HE HAD A SAMPLE OF MARILYNS HAIR HE TOOK OUT OF TRASH BIN AT HER AUTOPSY THEY COULD TEST THAT

Posted by: Garbo20 Nov 15 2007, 06:57 PM

Not sure quite how to say this, but what could they possibly find out now, she died over 40 years ago and well I don't think there would be much of her left and certainly no evidence left. I think she should be left alone..

Posted by: lillis3 Nov 15 2007, 11:57 PM

QUOTE(jennie2000 @ Apr 19 2007, 07:39 PM) *
Oh come on people, her body has been dead for ages and her soul is in a happier place. Her gift was her body yes but see it for what it is now, rotting, if not already a sceleton. How many of you have actually really seen a dear one dead? Then you will know, their soul is no longer there. It isnt! It is gone where they were the happiest and that is that. If people caring about such things would like to know, then why not let them.
A dead body is a dead body, no matter what the title was on the toe when it was brought in.
I believe Marilyn/ Norma Jeane is in her happiest place right now (and none of us will never know where that is), and I don't think she really cares what people does to the body she leant to be here on earth.
Sorry (not) to the people here who are so superficial and shallow and believe that the body is so important, and do believe that Marilyn would in her death be so concerned about such issues as where her dead body ended up.I beleive she would be more concerned someone who loved her got in charge of it.
Dig the body up I say and quiten the ignorant, who always beleived she were a victim..


i agree with you molly

Posted by: pinup Nov 16 2007, 07:13 PM

I wonder if Hugh Hefner still wants to exhume her then?

Posted by: albosil Nov 17 2007, 01:35 AM

QUOTE
I guess we should just dig up Abraham Lincoln's body and parade his head at the circus, hey we can get top dollar for that!


But we wouldn't be doing that. We wouldnt be hanging her body by a hook and sellling tickets for all to see. It is simply something to be done that COULD possibly tell us what happened and put some of our questions to rest. Just because your personal beliefs won't allow you to agree to this, does that mean that the rest of us should be kept from the truth of what happened to marilyn also? To me, it is a body..its not MARILYN anymore. Marilyn is in a different place now and we should respect her MEMORY and wouldn't you want the real story of her life instead of a million different conspiracies.

Posted by: pinup Nov 17 2007, 02:07 AM

yes i agree. and lets face it if the real cause of death was revealed it would stop alot of so called 'friends' of hers from making money off these conspiracy theories.

Posted by: meganmarilyn Nov 18 2007, 01:44 AM

All it takes is one step. We can do anything we want to the body because it's just flesh and bone. My point is where do we draw the line? And what right do you have to exhume her body? You aren't related to her, that is my entire point. And just as you say these are my so called beliefs, not everyone agrees with you that it's just her body and nothing more than that. To you it may be flesh and bone, to me it was the temple which carried Norma Jeane's soul. You may not respect it enough to leave it alone, but I do. Just because you don't accept the results of her autopsy report or reasons for her death, that doesn't give you or I the right to exhume her body just to ease our curiousity. I respect Marilyn's body just as I respect her soul. She deserves eternal peace, period.

QUOTE(albosil @ Nov 16 2007, 04:35 PM) *
But we wouldn't be doing that. We wouldnt be hanging her body by a hook and sellling tickets for all to see. It is simply something to be done that COULD possibly tell us what happened and put some of our questions to rest. Just because your personal beliefs won't allow you to agree to this, does that mean that the rest of us should be kept from the truth of what happened to marilyn also? To me, it is a body..its not MARILYN anymore. Marilyn is in a different place now and we should respect her MEMORY and wouldn't you want the real story of her life instead of a million different conspiracies.

Posted by: dwane Nov 18 2007, 02:01 AM

i agree with meganmarilyn. it's still marilyn and i think the only person to exhume marilyn is someone that she is related to. although marilyn's spirit is in a different place i would rather not know what killed her rather than taking her body out of her crypt. there is hair from her autopsy, why can't we test that? and there must be something else we could test, i mean anything.

Posted by: albosil Nov 18 2007, 02:34 AM

QUOTE(meganmarilyn @ Nov 18 2007, 01:44 AM) *
All it takes is one step. We can do anything we want to the body because it's just flesh and bone. My point is where do we draw the line? And what right do you have to exhume her body? You aren't related to her, that is my entire point. And just as you say these are my so called beliefs, not everyone agrees with you that it's just her body and nothing more than that. To you it may be flesh and bone, to me it was the temple which carried Norma Jeane's soul. You may not respect it enough to leave it alone, but I do. Just because you don't accept the results of her autopsy report or reasons for her death, that doesn't give you or I the right to exhume her body just to ease our curiousity. I respect Marilyn's body just as I respect her soul. She deserves eternal peace, period.


Her relatives? Who in her life actually gave a damn about her that is still alive? (or for that matter, even EXISTED). You can't use her half sister's grandchild (this is just a hypothetical..) as a source to OK her body being dug up. He/she is about to close as Marilyn as we are. The point is, you , just like some of the people here, are letting their beliefs hold the rest of us from possibly finding out the TRUTH. and Hey, if you can find out the truth from a strand of Marilyn's hair...then don't dig up the body. But if that's not possible...then we need to go another route. I think some people here might even be afraid of what might be found out because they like the "mystery" sorrounding it. . Find another way to discover how Marilyn died..then i'll shut up, but until then...the soul and the body are two different things. Marilyn's soul and body have long parted ways.

Posted by: chickeyonthego Nov 18 2007, 03:08 AM

If the exhume her body I hope they do a DNA test and finally prove who her father was.

Posted by: meganmarilyn Nov 18 2007, 06:22 AM

Oh I get, since my opinion is considered a belief, while yours isn't, right? Why is YOUR truth the ABSOLUTE truth of what should be done, while mine or others is not? Once again, you are a fan, not a relative, not someone who is related to her. So if that IS ALL it takes to exhume a body, when you die, I will want your body exhumed and put on display at the local flea market. Since you are only flesh and bone and your body doesn't hold any significate purpose in life but to eat, sleep, and eventually die and be buried in a grave somewhere.

One more thing, you just stated below that the body and soul are 2 different things. #1, you can't prove it scientifically, since the soul is based on religous belief. But hey, if you can somehow prove that Marilyn's soul is IN NO way connected to her body on this spiritual level or any other (depends on what religion), go ahead. I am waiting...

I respect your opinion, whether or not mine deserves the same. Anyways, peace and I myself will move on from this topic.

QUOTE(albosil @ Nov 17 2007, 05:34 PM) *
Her relatives? Who in her life actually gave a damn about her that is still alive? (or for that matter, even EXISTED). You can't use her half sister's grandchild (this is just a hypothetical..) as a source to OK her body being dug up. He/she is about to close as Marilyn as we are. The point is, you , just like some of the people here, are letting their beliefs hold the rest of us from possibly finding out the TRUTH. and Hey, if you can find out the truth from a strand of Marilyn's hair...then don't dig up the body. But if that's not possible...then we need to go another route. I think some people here might even be afraid of what might be found out because they like the "mystery" sorrounding it. . Find another way to discover how Marilyn died..then i'll shut up, but until then...the soul and the body are two different things. Marilyn's soul and body have long parted ways.

Posted by: dwane Nov 18 2007, 10:40 PM

i don't think anyone here is stopping her body from being exhumed, the people who might or are going to do it i guarentee are not reading these posts and taking them into consideration.

nobody here is stopping her body from being exhumed, unless we had a petition or something, we can't do diddly about it.

Posted by: bonadrag Nov 18 2007, 10:53 PM

i'm 50/50 on it. i'd like her body to be exhumed so we could find out how she really died and maybe what happened so all the rumors and theories can be put to rest. but on the other hand, something about having people take her out of her resting place and having her examined just kind of bothers me.

Posted by: albosil Nov 19 2007, 02:49 AM

QUOTE
One more thing, you just stated below that the body and soul are 2 different things.


So the soul deteriorates with the body? Or does the soul stay in a deteriorating body? You can't have both.

P.S..I'm sorry if i came off as disrespectful, I meant nothing of the sort.

Posted by: Christina Dec 30 2007, 10:39 PM

I believe that it wouldn't be nice to exhume her body as everyone said for the same reasons,although we all want to learn the reason and I believe all the people that loved her deserve the truth. I know that her soul isn't there anymore but still..i think that if you go to her grave you'll feel like she is there even though it's just the remains of her body,45 years later...
But it would be better if the certain few people that know the truth,open their mouths and tell the truth! I believe that there were conspiracies when she died.. "never to reveal the truth"... and "some people" hiding behind her so-called suicide... Now everyone that may had put someone to kill her is dead all doctors,detectives,etc should talk... I saw a documentary lately and you could clearly see that some doctors weren't allowed to talk more about her death or the autopsy results...
I think that maybe we can learn the truth without disturbing her body.

Posted by: jonas May 6 2008, 12:32 AM

To be just, the world would have to exhume the bodies of everyone who ever died mysterious deaths. Not just Marilyn's. And though the road may be longer, it's probably not necessary. The exhuming of the body would at best tell us something about the substances which entered her body and killed her, but it wouldn't tell us who, assuming she was killed. At this point, just by analyzing the behaviour of the people who were in the vicinity of Helena Drive that night, is enough to see that something odd happened on August 4th/5th. Marilyn's death wasn't a mere,simple one. And even if it was, it sure wasn't treated as one later on.
The behaviour of Greenson, Murray, Engelberg,Clemmons, the studios and what not that night says it all. The difficulty is pinpointing facts! But who knows what the future holds.Technology advances so rapidly.

Posted by: Ultraviolet May 9 2008, 12:57 PM

QUOTE(jonas @ May 6 2008, 12:32 AM) *
To be just, the world would have to exhume the bodies of everyone who ever died mysterious deaths. Not just Marilyn's. And though the road may be longer, it's probably not necessary. The exhuming of the body would at best tell us something about the substances which entered her body and killed her, but it wouldn't tell us who, assuming she was killed. At this point, just by analyzing the behaviour of the people who were in the vicinity of Helena Drive that night, is enough to see that something odd happened on August 4th/5th. Marilyn's death wasn't a mere,simple one. And even if it was, it sure wasn't treated as one later on.
The behaviour of Greenson, Murray, Engelberg,Clemmons, the studios and what not that night says it all. The difficulty is pinpointing facts! But who knows what the future holds.Technology advances so rapidly.



I agree with Jonas, the exhuming would only proof what we allready know, her blood level containing 4,5 mg of Nembutal, a markable coloration of the lower intestines (or what ever), everything that the autopsy allready revealed, they hardly would find any new revealing poison(s) in the 46 year old remnants.
In doing some laboratory research now wouldn't tell anymore of the two most important questions, who killed her and what was the exact motive.
So there would be left two things: the same old mystery as the same and plus, the nasty awareness knowing Marilyn's body has been digged out of her final resting place.

Posted by: meganmarilyn May 9 2008, 01:11 PM

QUOTE(albosil @ Nov 18 2007, 06:49 PM) *
So the soul deteriorates with the body? Or does the soul stay in a deteriorating body? You can't have both.

P.S..I'm sorry if i came off as disrespectful, I meant nothing of the sort.



Again, you missed the point. Her body was something she took great pride in when her soul inhabited it. It wasn't just a vehicle to consume food and then dispose waste. That is her temple, it is sacred to fans like myself and to millions of others. She isn't just some john doe or cadaver. To you it may be. To me no. If ANYONE on this earth deserves eternal rest and peace, it is her. Like it or not.

Posted by: pinup May 9 2008, 05:41 PM

I dont know what you all believe about psychics and stuff ut there was a show on in the uk which was trying to 'contact' marilyn. One man claims he did 'contact' her and apparently she said she is stuck on earth because of all the consipiracys that surrond her death. If that is true Id hate her spirit to be trapped here... and ifexhuming her body was the only way to get to the truth I think its a good thing. However as Ultraviolet said they would probably only find in her body what was found in the autopsy, assuming of course the autopsy was legit.
To be honest I think the only way we can really know what happened is if someone tells the TRUTH and has PROOF, unfortunately most of these people are long gone.

Posted by: magda24 May 9 2008, 07:10 PM

As for the most evidence is found in soft tissue (unless she received blunt forced trauma to the skull or some other bone fracture) there's not much left to be found. of course, they could run tox tests but would they prove anything different than autopsy? I doubt it. If there was anything to find it should have been found during the post mortem. But the autopsy raport was not exhaustive.....I've seen many autopsy reports (I study criminalistics) and they were never that brief...

Posted by: marilynfanonline May 9 2008, 11:44 PM

I not sure about what would be left of her. Was she embaled well? What would be left of a body after 45 years? Bones and hair I'm guessing?

Posted by: marilyns_firstkiss May 10 2008, 04:27 AM

After an autopsy is done, the organs are put in plastic bags. From what I understand, even after all these years, the organs would still
be well enough intact to perform tests.
I also read that there was a small section cut from the intestines that was supposed to be tested
during the autopsy. Unfortunately the samples were thrown away and never tested because it was announced that her death was a probable suicide. This
came directly from Noguchi in a book I read about famous deaths and autopsy results. This means if the remains are sealed in plastic bags
it will be possible to test the intestines for nembutal and chloral hydrates and how they were administered..ie, mouth, rectal, etc.

I personally believe her body should be exhumed for another autopsy. And only for scientific purposes. I think if there is such a thing as a soul,
maybe the truth about a person should be told before they can really be at peace.

Posted by: magda24 May 10 2008, 09:22 AM

QUOTE(marilyns_firstkiss @ May 10 2008, 05:27 AM) *
After an autopsy is done, the organs are put in plastic bags. From what I understand, even after all these years, the organs would still
be well enough intact to perform tests.
I also read that there was a small section cut from the intestines that was supposed to be tested
during the autopsy. Unfortunately the samples were thrown away and never tested because it was announced that her death was a probable suicide. This
came directly from Noguchi in a book I read about famous deaths and autopsy results. This means if the remains are sealed in plastic bags
it will be possible to test the intestines for nembutal and chloral hydrates and how they were administered..ie, mouth, rectal, etc.

I personally believe her body should be exhumed for another autopsy. And only for scientific purposes. I think if there is such a thing as a soul,
maybe the truth about a person should be told before they can really be at peace.

And that is the problems- the organs are missing, so another autopsy probably would come inconclusive. and I just can imagine another set of autopsy photos "accidentally" leaking to the press.

Posted by: arsena1 May 10 2008, 02:02 PM

QUOTE(magda24 @ May 10 2008, 09:22 AM) *
And that is the problems- the organs are missing, so another autopsy probably would come inconclusive. and I just can imagine another set of autopsy photos "accidentally" leaking to the press.


I respect everyone's views on this forum. I honestly believe that many present different viewpoints, some taking a more scientific approach to understanding her death, while others are concerned with the spiritualistic/mutual respect aspect as to why an exhumtion is prohibited. Consensus will never be reached because of this. Personally, part of me wants to know the truth, wants to put a rest to the conspiracies, wants ease of mind. . .But at the same time I have the utmost respect for Marilyn. I would hate for the media to violate the autopsy and leak photos onto the Internet. For that I'll form my own violent vigilante group, ha.

So, at the same time an exhumtion would rectify and conclude the unanswered - the various questions that plague many minds on this forum, as well as my own. But how do you perform an exhumtion without disturbing her final resting place, which I too am against like others no.gif .

Lastly, I would add that technological advancements in forensic science and autopsies could conclude the inconclusive original autopsy results. We could understand, how the toxicatons were administered into her body. But from here, it begins another conspiracy spiral and ultimately it would seem we were back where we stated - square one.

Posted by: magda24 May 10 2008, 03:44 PM

I don't know if exhuming Marilyn body knowing that the results may or not may be conclusive is worth it. I'm not totally against it but I wonder what it would prove? It's not like her death place was treated as a crime scene- I wonder what evidence was gathered, if any?The autopsy results always should be interpreted in the light of corraborating evidence- which is null.There are almost no living witnessess and brief police reports.Not much to start with. We know the direct reason of her death (unless coroner lied in an autopsy report), we don't know how (if) the drugs were administered. After all those years I doubt it's possible to find a crucial proof wheter her death was a result of a foul play, not mentioning distinction between suicide and AO.I know there's a chance-but is it worth it?I always believed that if Marilyn was murdered she should be treated as any citizen- but at the time of her death. Now, after all those years....

Posted by: Ultraviolet May 10 2008, 08:50 PM

QUOTE(magda24 @ May 9 2008, 07:10 PM) *
As for the most evidence is found in soft tissue (unless she received blunt forced trauma to the skull or some other bone fracture) there's not much left to be found. of course, they could run tox tests but would they prove anything different than autopsy? I doubt it. If there was anything to find it should have been found during the post mortem. But the autopsy raport was not exhaustive.....I've seen many autopsy reports (I study criminalistics) and they were never that brief...



MM:s original autopsy report plus the inquiry of her death contained 700 pages, but it was cut to mere 19 pages.

Here's the link I've posted before, where parts of this can be found (not the original rapport of course):

educationforum.ipbhost.com

search there the murder of MM



Posted by: magda24 May 11 2008, 10:25 AM

QUOTE(Ultraviolet @ May 10 2008, 09:50 PM) *
MM:s original autopsy report plus the inquiry of her death contained 700 pages, but it was cut to mere 19 pages.

Here's the link I've posted before, where parts of this can be found (not the original rapport of course):

educationforum.ipbhost.com

search there the murder of MM

Yeah I was always wondering what happened to those hundreds of pages....

Posted by: MarilynMariah May 12 2008, 01:16 AM

QUOTE(magda24 @ May 10 2008, 03:44 PM) *
I don't know if exhuming Marilyn body knowing that the results may or not may be conclusive is worth it. I'm not totally against it but I wonder what it would prove? It's not like her death place was treated as a crime scene- I wonder what evidence was gathered, if any?The autopsy results always should be interpreted in the light of corraborating evidence- which is null.There are almost no living witnessess and brief police reports.Not much to start with. We know the direct reason of her death (unless coroner lied in an autopsy report), we don't know how (if) the drugs were administered. After all those years I doubt it's possible to find a crucial proof wheter her death was a result of a foul play, not mentioning distinction between suicide and AO.I know there's a chance-but is it worth it?I always believed that if Marilyn was murdered she should be treated as any citizen- but at the time of her death. Now, after all those years....


I also wonder what it would prove. I'm not sure it would lay to rest anyone's questions about the circumstances around her death. The mere thought of exuming her body is a very hard one for me to digest. I realize her spirit is no longer with her body - but it is still very morbid. Especially when people really can't pin-point that there would be any evidence to shed new light on what really happened that horrible night. There are many condrodictions that surround her death. I really don't think there is much to justify removing her body from its final resting place. She gave so much of her life to be "Marilyn." It's a weighty debate for sure.

If people were 99.99 % sure that the truth about how she passed ie was it murder? ect would be discovered once and for all -- and we could put it all to rest, then I might see some point to it. But we have nothing like that as a backing. In some ways for me it boils down to giving our Norma Jeane/Marilyn the respect in death she didn't recieve while she was alive.

Posted by: jonas May 27 2008, 12:48 AM

To exhume Marilyn's body, then to be fair we'd have have to exhume the bodies of everyone who died "mysteriously". It might or might not solve the mystery,I don't know, but a worldwide upheaval of bodies would be the only fair thing to do. Anyway, it's probably unnecessary as it could tell us WHAT killed her,assuming she was killed, but never WHO. To know who,46 years after her death, one can only analyze the going-ons and the behavior of some people at the scene to come to some sort of conclusion. And there's no doubt in my mind that there was some sort of cover up that night. <a cover up to murder or to accidental overdose or to malpractice is the question.People likeClemmons, Murray, Greenson or even the studios who had Marilyn under contract, just behaved too "weirdly" if it were just a case of suicide,on purpose or accidental.
If the exhuming of the body could tell us who was directly or indirectly responsible for her death, then fine. If not, then the answer will have to be found in some other way.

Posted by: collector Jun 10 2008, 12:32 PM

MM = Bruce Lee

Both deaths will always be questioned and never resolved it seems.....

Posted by: SummerRaye Jun 12 2008, 06:41 AM

Goodness...I'm so 50/50.


I am a firm believer in finding out the truth, but even if we did find out HOW she died...will we ever find out WHY she died?


Posted by: Cello Jan 25 2014, 06:51 AM

QUOTE(marilynfanonline @ May 9 2008, 04:44 PM) *
I not sure about what would be left of her. Was she embaled well? What would be left of a body after 45 years? Bones and hair I'm guessing?


I've wondered this also. I have read that if you're in an airtight crypt it takes much longer to decompose (as opposed to standard ground burial)...

But I would assume in the very least there would be bone and hair (she was wearing a wig but I'm sure what remained of her hair was not shaved off or anything like that)

I really don't know if they embalmed her or not..?

As for exhumation? I say YES. The so-called investigation into her death was a farce as far as I'm concerned and she deserves better. It's not about "parading her body around"... who said the public would have access? Or photos would be taken to show to the public? It can be done with HIGH SECURITY.

I would think Marilyn would want justice (if anyone had anything to do with her death). And I want justice for her. Even if it turns out to be a suicide or even an accidental overdose.

Exhuming may not answer everything but I think it'll bring us one step closer to the truth. So many years are passing... and the more years that pass, the further away we get from being able to solve this.

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