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Posted by: nathalie May 4 2005, 02:59 PM

She looks strange on this pic.What do you think?

 

Posted by: sabine May 4 2005, 03:08 PM

What?? It's clearly Marilyn on her wedding day to Joe Dimaggio...it's just a very poor quality pic.


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Posted by: Mandydolphin May 4 2005, 04:58 PM

Nathalie,I also think it's Marilyn

Posted by: wootness May 4 2005, 08:27 PM

I dont think that is Marilyn. Marilyn's hair was much more curly that day and she didnt wear gloves.


Posted by: marilyn May 5 2005, 12:53 AM

no i don't think it's marilyn either

Posted by: nathalie May 5 2005, 01:50 PM

Thanks at all.

Posted by: sabine May 5 2005, 03:25 PM

Woah, ok, i didn't see that she had gloves on in the mystery pic BUT never the less...it's definetly Marilyn...i mean, look at her face. And it's the same outfit from the wedding. Maybe she wore it for another function sometime in 1954....maybe while in San Francisco with Joe?
It's Marilyn for sure though.....


sabine

Posted by: wootness May 5 2005, 05:03 PM

Well I wont be convinced until someone finds some more information on the picture.

Posted by: nathalie May 7 2005, 09:03 AM

I read it's maybe with King Paul of Greece and Quenn Friederike, Princess of Hannover. rolleyes1.gif

Posted by: ellen May 7 2005, 09:16 AM

her face looks real long and her nose looks broad im not sure?

Posted by: minx_dublin May 7 2005, 12:25 PM

Linda posted this reply in Sabine's Yahoo group :

QUOTE
David,
I think Marilyn is photographied with King Paul of Greece and his wife Queen Friederike.
The queen was inspired by Marilyn clothes, look what she wore when she visited our Belgian Queen Fabiola --lol
Linda


 

Posted by: nathalie May 7 2005, 03:16 PM

They came to the marriage???

Posted by: sabine May 7 2005, 03:31 PM

Cool Info... clapping.gif
yes, this was posted at my club recently. It's definetly marilyn....can we get a date on this??? rolleyes1.gif
That would make me happy...... balloon.gif


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Posted by: linkeando May 8 2005, 07:23 PM

but her hairstyle itīs different, and her body, itīs so strange.... look at her

Posted by: suusmarie May 9 2005, 02:21 AM

I agree with Jeannette...there is something completly off with this photo hmm.gif !! Her face seems to long and the hair...I am not convinced coolio.gif .

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Posted by: meganmarilyn May 9 2005, 03:24 AM

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Posted by: Zelda Zonk May 9 2005, 04:36 AM

The face and hair throw me off. And wow, the face does look like a drawing.

Posted by: wootness May 9 2005, 05:26 AM

Im still not convinced that it's Marilyn. Everything is off.

Posted by: sabine May 9 2005, 04:40 PM

Ok guys.....all i can see is that the Picture is very crappy....but never the less, it's Marilyn....everybody in the Pic looks in poor quality more or less, not just marilyn...what's throwing everybody off is that the picture is particularily in poor quality in Marilyn's nose area....
I checked to see where Marilyn was during this time (November 14th 1953) and she was in Hollywood. So, physically she could have been there....
Her Hair was long (this was 10 days after the premiere of 'how to marry a Millionaire' where Marilyn's Hair was longer...) She cut it shorter in early December 1953..
Personnally i think that this Pic is legit, just bad quality... no.gif


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#1 November 4th 1953. At the Premiere Marilyn's hair is longer with a long side bang....
#2 November 14th 1953....Hair appears long (even longer now because she wore it straight) with a long side bang....
#3 December 8th 1953...Marilyn cut her hair into a shorter, curlier style

Posted by: meganmarilyn May 9 2005, 05:31 PM

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Posted by: sabine May 9 2005, 05:35 PM

And the purpose for faking this photo would be???
I am gonna agree to dissagree...i see no reason to 'fake' a photo like this....if it actually ment something or somebody is trying to prove something (like maybe faking a photo with Marilyn and J.F.K strolling around together...lol...) but a meeting between Marilyn and some royals visiting hollywood?
I see no reason for it....i will mantain that the pic is simply in poor quality....the other people don't look so hot either...lol....by the way, the man right behind marilyn, isn't that skouros (i might be misspelling his name) rolleyes1.gif



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Posted by: sabine May 9 2005, 05:57 PM

Megan, i just wanted to say that i value your input very much and between us we have solved some mysteries.... clapping.gif ....i hate to dissagree with you and hopefully we can find out more about the mystery pic.
I also draw and have for a long time....the likeness is too much like Marilyn, also wearing the suit from her upcoming wedding is too much of a coincidence....would somebody else wear that identical suit to the meeting with the royals and then marilyn's face was super imposed unto that person wearing marilyn's own suit?
(That's too weird...)
Or was Marilyn's entire body and face superimposed into the pic? I see no reason to do this.....who are they trying to fool and why? lack of motive. Most people wouldn't even KNOW about this meeting...i sure didn't untill recently. And i thought i knew everything..lol...just kidding. blush.gif
I am just trying to apply Logic... rolleyes1.gif


sabine


PS: Also concider this: In the Pic Marilyn could be looking 'worse quality' than some of the other People in the Pic because Marilyn was so pale, her hair so light....she reflected more light and she comes out in the Pic as more 'washed out', almost a little 'ghostly'...everybody else has darker hair and darker features....

Posted by: meganmarilyn May 9 2005, 08:32 PM

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Posted by: marie-marilyn May 9 2005, 09:40 PM

I'd be tempted to say that it is a photoshopped piece, because if you look really closely you can see where the head has been lifted onto the picture (there is a little block of grey pixels which I am sure shouldn't be there).
However, why someone would take an outfit that is similar and stick the head on I don't know (wouldn't you take an actual photo of her wedding and post the head on if you felt so inclined?)

The mystery continues...

Posted by: marilyn May 9 2005, 11:37 PM

personally i also think it's a drawing

Posted by: sabine May 10 2005, 05:42 AM

It's not from the wedding because Marilyn didn't wear gloves, just the same suit....i stand behind my gut feling that the pic is for real, just really bad looking....one way to figure out for sure is to find out if Marilyn really did meet the king and queen whatever...lol...


sabine PS: still don't get the motive behind 'faking' this pic. What for?

Posted by: meganmarilyn May 10 2005, 10:24 AM

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Posted by: sabine May 11 2005, 03:19 PM

well, if somebody is trying to 'scam' the public with a rare Marilyn photo, you'd think they'd make it a less ugly one....lolol....
Anyways, i guess we're just gonna have to agree to dissagree on this one. I just don't see it. I'm not much for conspiracies and stuff either....what can I say??


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PS: As far as Marilyn's face being different than the other people.....i still think that's because Marilyn was so pale and the light blond hair, making her look rather ghostly, 'washing her out'....

Posted by: Marilyn2Bonnie May 12 2005, 05:23 PM


I don't beleave the pictures Marilyn.She did not ware gloves and the hair does not look the same Marilyn's hair looks shorter and if you look close at the picture Marilyn is wareing something that looks like Jewelry maybe a Jeweled pin at her neck line at the top of her first button.

Posted by: Marilyn2Bonnie May 18 2005, 07:30 AM

I have this picture of Marilyn in Black lace. I don't think the lace picture flatters Marilyn,but look at the nose they look to me much the same as the wedding picture. Interesting.

Posted by: linkeando Aug 6 2005, 12:59 AM

hey, ITīS TRUE, then!?!?!?!?!?!?

http://cgi.ebay.com/MARILYN-MONROE-VINTAGE-ROYAL-MEETING-IN-LOS-ANGELES_W0QQitemZ7536592142QQcategoryZ60315QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

Posted by: suusmarie Aug 6 2005, 01:37 AM

Wow shock.gif blink.gif !!

Posted by: linkeando Aug 6 2005, 12:12 PM

hahahahaha, my face was similar, LOL

Posted by: sabine Aug 6 2005, 04:37 PM

FINALLY....i feel vindicated. I said the pic in question was REAL, just a shabby quality. The latest pic proves Marilyn was there.
I just seemed odd to me to fake the pic.....

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Posted by: suusmarie Aug 7 2005, 02:05 AM

I now remember the event being briefly mentioned in the Spoto book doh.gif ! In the chapter covering 1953 Spoto talks about Sidney Skolsky escorting MM to all kind of events, including a party for the King&Queen of Greece, in the fall of 1953 wink3.gif .

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Posted by: linkeando Aug 7 2005, 02:55 PM

YES!!!! suus
good eye!!!!!
page 283 spanish version
her route with skolsky was Sheila Grahamīs wedding, night club and a this party.

very strong (like we say in Spain) LOL

SOLVED!!!!!!!

Posted by: linkeando Aug 7 2005, 03:08 PM

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Paul%20of%20Greece

at the present Sofía de Grecia y Hannover is Queen of Spain

http://ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/news/columns_446396KathiLev&xml/&aspKath/columns.asp?fdate=15/11/2003

then i have this date November 13, 1953

what do you think?

Posted by: sabine Aug 8 2005, 01:26 AM

I checked Marilyn's 'look' in november of 1953...and her hair was long. Just like in the picture. Totally possible then.


sabine

Posted by: linkeando Aug 8 2005, 08:30 PM

november 1953



shorter in decembre 1953

Posted by: wootness Aug 8 2005, 08:39 PM

This is an automated reply

Considering the information contributed by our members regarding the original question, we can now consider this investigation as solved.

Posted by: linkeando Jan 13 2008, 01:55 PM

well, is solved, but definitively, Marilyn saluted to the Greek Royalty

http://www.movietone.com/N_search.cfm?ActionFlag=back2ResultsView&start=2&pageStart=1&totalRecords=14&V_DateType=1&V_DECADE=1929&V_FromYear=1928&V_QualifySubject=&V_storyNumber=&V_TermsToOmit=&V_ToYear=1980&V_searchType=1&V_MainSubject=marilyn%20monroe&V_Year=1928&V_resultsPerPage=10




 

Posted by: Ileana Jan 13 2008, 01:59 PM

Thank you, Jeannette, that's very rare footage! Does anyone have an account? Or can anyone upload the clip pretty please?

Posted by: linkeando Jan 13 2008, 11:26 PM

ileana, you can use my trick wink3.gif

http://www.movietone.com/assets/BMN0583/wmv/BMN_60117_3.wmv for Windows Media Player, then saves as... into you PC

Posted by: Ileana Jan 14 2008, 10:25 AM

It didn't work crybaby.gif It just opened Winamp but didn't play any file.

Posted by: linkeando Jan 14 2008, 09:07 PM

ops, sorry, i donīt know why. Then you must be registered, itīs free and easy

Posted by: Lacrymosa Jan 14 2008, 09:09 PM

Ileana you should try Media Player Classic it works with me.

Posted by: Ileana Jan 15 2008, 08:45 AM

Thank you, girls jumpymm.gif I managed!

Posted by: suusmarie Jan 16 2008, 02:12 AM

Great link Jeannette, thanks clapping.gif !

Posted by: nightxposed Apr 3 2012, 12:51 AM

I am shocked that this was reported as solved. Just because she met with King Paulo and Queen Frederica does NOT make this picture real. In fact, it is VERY obviously photoshopped. You can see the line across her forehead where the different face was attached and if you follow that line, you will plainly see that the hair on her left side (our right) doesn't even match up. It is very easy to see exactly where the cropped face was laid over the top of the picture. This is most definitely a fake.

Posted by: Mezzo Jun 25 2012, 06:43 PM

QUOTE(nightxposed @ Apr 2 2012, 06:51 PM) *
I am shocked that this was reported as solved. Just because she met with King Paulo and Queen Frederica does NOT make this picture real. In fact, it is VERY obviously photoshopped. You can see the line across her forehead where the different face was attached and if you follow that line, you will plainly see that the hair on her left side (our right) doesn't even match up. It is very easy to see exactly where the cropped face was laid over the top of the picture. This is most definitely a fake.


I'm not good at determining if a photo has been photoshopped. Here is a link to a BBC video about the visit and a photo I captured from the link:
http://www.bbcmotiongallery.com/gallery/clip/48050357_0800.do




Posted by: nightxposed Jun 25 2012, 07:00 PM

There is no question that she met with the King and Queen, Mary. But that picture is not real. I believe it was once a real picture of Marilyn meeting them. I suspect someone put their own face on it as a gag or for use on their website. I've seen many examples of people putting their own face on Marilyn. I can't think of any other motive for doing it. The photoshopping is very easy to spot and is actually quite a poor job.

Posted by: meganmarilyn Jun 26 2012, 05:17 AM

QUOTE(nightxposed @ Apr 2 2012, 04:51 PM) *
I am shocked that this was reported as solved. Just because she met with King Paulo and Queen Frederica does NOT make this picture real. In fact, it is VERY obviously photoshopped. You can see the line across her forehead where the different face was attached and if you follow that line, you will plainly see that the hair on her left side (our right) doesn't even match up. It is very easy to see exactly where the cropped face was laid over the top of the picture. This is most definitely a fake.



Here is the original newspaper clipping with the source photo. I see nothing wrong with this photo. Looks real to me.

 

Posted by: mberton Jun 26 2012, 07:30 AM

QUOTE(meganmarilyn @ Jun 26 2012, 05:17 AM) *
Here is the original newspaper clipping with the source photo. I see nothing wrong with this photo. Looks real to me.


I'm with you Megan - looks real to me.

Posted by: CYRILPARIS Jun 26 2012, 01:38 PM

From book Marilyn in Fashion by George Zeno & Christopher Nickens

 

Posted by: MM_Fan Jul 2 2014, 07:30 AM

I realize this investigation is closed, but I just saw this photograph on eBay and it reminded me of this conversation; I thought I'd add the slightly different angle (though the image is heavily watermarked):

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Posted by: linkeando Jul 2 2014, 07:27 PM

QUOTE(MM_Fan @ Jul 2 2014, 07:30 AM) *
I realize this investigation is closed, but I just saw this photograph on eBay and it reminded me of this conversation; I thought I'd add the slightly different angle (though the image is heavily watermarked):

marilynbybrandon_190.gif


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Posted by: suusmarie Jul 3 2014, 12:34 AM

Finally the right date for this event, thanks clapping.gif

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