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Posted by: sabine Dec 30 2004, 04:02 AM


Hi...hopefully i can get some answers....i have no clue when the two photos above were taken (with susan strasberg)...is that Sardi's restaurant in N.Y.?
I have also seen pics of two other occasions where Marilyn and susan are photographed together....one for susan's "anne frank" opening in october 1955.....there is another occasion that shows Marilyn with susan.....marilyn is wearing a black dress each time but one has straps, one doesn't....in one pic susan is wearing a dark turtleneck....could somebody post the pics in question please?? THANK YOU

sabine

Posted by: Mandydolphin Dec 30 2004, 06:16 PM

I have this one if you're looking for more pics with Susan.

 

Posted by: Nina Dec 30 2004, 08:36 PM

Yes Sabine, it's Sardi's Restaurant at Susan's 18th Birthday on May 22, 1956.

Mandy has already posted the photo from the Anne Frank Play and here are some more I have.

The one with Laurence Olivier is before filming The Prince and the Showgirl.

Pictures from the opening night of Anne Frank at Cort Theater are from Oct. 5th, 1955. Please correct me, if I'm wrong!


 

Posted by: sabine Dec 31 2004, 06:30 PM

Hello....thank you so much for helping out....
Ok, let's make some sense of this: Susan strasberg's birthday party at Sardi's May 22nd 1956...FINALLY SOLVED!!! That made me very happy.. ;-)
Ok, unto the other pics...the one with Lawrence Olivier is from february 1956....
Then there is the one with susan strasberg in a black turtleneck and Marilyn in the black dress with thin straps from the opening of "anne frank" in oct. 1955.....
Now there is only one left to identify....look closely.....there's susan in a white dress and marilyn in a black dress WITHOUT straps....where and when???
It looks like the same room as the "anne frank" pics, doesn't it???
I will post both so we can compare.....


Ok, this is definetly from the opening of 'Anne frank"...marilyn is wearing the dress with straps and susan is in the black turtleneck.

As you can see, Marilyn is in a strapless dress (i have more photos of marilyn arriving for this occasion and she's definetly in a strapless dress) and Susan is in a white dress....susan could have changed into the black turtleneck from this dress, sure...but marilyn changing dresses,too??? Doubt it....
What do we make of this??

sabine

Posted by: chickeyonthego Dec 31 2004, 10:24 PM

Marilyn and Olivier went to see Susan in "Diary" the same night of the press conference for The Sleeping Prince. Feb 9, 1956.

Posted by: sabine Jan 1 2005, 05:47 PM

Thanks for the Info about Feb. 9th 1956...i always wondered why susan strasberg was in the pics with Olivier and Marilyn and now i know....MANY THANKS!!
Now we just have to figure out my original question...


sabine

Posted by: linkeando Jan 1 2005, 08:16 PM

sabine, which your question is now?

Posted by: sabine Jan 2 2005, 05:52 PM

OMG...i am such a knucklehead.....i searched all the available pics and noticed that in the pics where Marilyn wears the "strapless' dress, the straps are actually hanging off her shoulders....isn't that silly?? Lololol....i never noticed it before.
Ok, susan strasberg changed out of the white dress/slip into the black turtleneck after her performance of "anne frank".....

sabine

Posted by: Nina Jan 2 2005, 06:07 PM

Sabine, are all your questions answered hmm.gif ? If you say so, I would mark it as solved wink3.gif

Posted by: chickeyonthego Jan 2 2005, 10:18 PM

So there are three dates
1. May 22, 1955 -- Susan's Birthday Party at Sardi's.
2. Oct. 5, 1955 -- Broadway Opening of The Diary of Anne Frank.
3. February 9, 1956 -- After the Prince and the Showgirl Press
Conference, attended The Diary of Anne Frank

**btw -- Marilyn couldn't have been at Susan's B. Day Party at Sardi's on May 22, 1956 as she was still in Hollywood filming Bus Stop. She didn't return to New York until June 2, 1956.

Does this sound right?!

Posted by: sabine Jan 3 2005, 06:50 PM

chickeyonthego:**btw -- Marilyn couldn't have been at Susan's B. Day Party at Sardi's on May 22, 1956 as she was still in Hollywood filming Bus Stop. She didn't return to New York until June 2, 1956.

Does this sound right?!


Sabine: Wow...hickeyonthego, i never thought of that.....VERY VERY good point there....i will check on this and get back to you all...

Posted by: Nina Jan 3 2005, 07:07 PM

doh.gif you're absolute right Stacy, 1956 is the right year, I'm dumb doh.gif

Posted by: chickeyonthego Jan 3 2005, 11:05 PM

I've looked until I am blue in the face, but I can't find anything about the birthday party, other than a captioned photo, in SusanStrasberg's book. Does anyone know where the reference to the birthday party would be in her book?

Posted by: Nina Jan 7 2005, 09:39 PM

Sabine, here is another photo of Marilyn, Susan and Lee Strasberg together at the Sardi's Restaurant. This picture came from the Marilyn and the Camera Book and has dated it to 1956. I only posted the pic because you asked for pics of them together wink3.gif

 

Posted by: sabine Jan 10 2005, 05:34 PM

Hi...thanks for posting that last pic....i have it actually but i am glad you posted it....that was taken in October 1955 (the book it was in mistakingly labeled it as 1956)....
Ok, on to the pic from 'susan's birthday party'.....well, i am totally sure that it couldn't have been taken then because of Marilyn's hairstyle.....and also because Marilyn was in Hollywood working on 'bus stop', as above mentioned....
So, did Marilyn actually attend Susan's birthday party in May 1956?
And.....when exactly was the pic taken of Marilyn in the highneck black dress and susan?

sabine

Posted by: Clift Jan 19 2005, 05:22 PM

I like the pictures, thanks!!

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Posted by: nathalie Jan 19 2005, 07:32 PM

I read the Susan Strasberg's book.I think that Marilyn was such a sister for Susan.I think that she (Marilyn ) was more fragile that Susan, and she support her. mmmaf_116.gif

Posted by: sabine Jan 20 2005, 06:15 PM

Quick update.....the pics with susan in the dressing room and at Sardi's were indeed taken Oct. 5th 1955....in one pic in the dressing room is a bald man with glasses and a bowtie laughing with susan strasberg while marilyn sits off to the right...that's susan's godfather.....
He can be seen sitting next to Marilyn at the backtable at Sardi's with susan sitting at a table up front (in a black turtleneck), with her father Lee Strasberg in a striped tie next to her on one side and director Joshua Logan (bus stop) in a mustache and bow tie on the other side...
The pics of Marilyn and susan holding the artwork was actually not taken on susan's 18th birthday on May 22nd 1956....Marilyn was still working on BUS STOP in Hollywood and didn't return to New York untill June 2nd '56....susan strasberg talks about this herself in one of her books....how Marilyn and Paula strasberg would call every night from L.A. to speak to Lee Strasberg during this time....the pics were taken sometime between June and mid-july '56 (when Marilyn left for England)....

sabine

Posted by: Mezzo Aug 4 2012, 08:30 AM




Edit: Now I see that it is cropped from the photo above. Silly me!

Posted by: CYRILPARIS Aug 21 2013, 12:54 PM

QUOTE(sabine @ Jan 20 2005, 07:15 PM) *
Quick update.....the pics with susan in the dressing room and at Sardi's were indeed taken Oct. 5th 1955....in one pic in the dressing room is a bald man with glasses and a bowtie laughing with susan strasberg while marilyn sits off to the right...that's susan's godfather.....
He can be seen sitting next to Marilyn at the backtable at Sardi's with susan sitting at a table up front (in a black turtleneck), with her father Lee Strasberg in a striped tie next to her on one side and director Joshua Logan (bus stop) in a mustache and bow tie on the other side...
The pics of Marilyn and susan holding the artwork was actually not taken on susan's 18th birthday on May 22nd 1956....Marilyn was still working on BUS STOP in Hollywood and didn't return to New York untill June 2nd '56....susan strasberg talks about this herself in one of her books....how Marilyn and Paula strasberg would call every night from L.A. to speak to Lee Strasberg during this time....the pics were taken sometime between June and mid-july '56 (when Marilyn left for England)....

sabine


Or may be from november 23th to december 1956...


 

Posted by: linkeando Sep 15 2015, 12:18 AM

I fear that I have to retake this thread because I was collecting information and I just realized that Marilyn wears a different outfit. Although really, the only thing different about these pictures are the braces, because it looks the same hairstyle.


What do you think?
Is it the same day? Susan's Strasberg and backstage of diary...?
I don't wanna to repeat the images, you can see them above


Posted by: Joan Newman Feb 12 2016, 12:32 AM

"Here is another photo of Marilyn, Susan and Lee Strasberg together at the Sardi's Restaurant. "

 

Posted by: suusmarie Feb 13 2016, 02:49 AM

QUOTE(Joan Newman @ Feb 12 2016, 12:32 AM) *
Here is another photo of Marilyn, Susan and Lee Strasberg together at the Sardi's Restaurant.


Do you mean the first photo, the blond woman seen from the back unsure.gif ? Because that is not MM. You can see the blonde woman in the other photo sitting opposite MM coolio.gif

Posted by: Joan Newman Feb 13 2016, 03:15 AM

Ooops Suus. I was quoting Nina in post #14. I guess because I had another picture from the event she posted on. I just added quotations. Thanks. I was trying to figure out where Marilyn would have been myself. I think Marilyn would have been way over to the right of the picture I posted. Right ? Anyway... Susan always seems to be the life of the party. She must not have been shy. Good for her.

Posted by: diamonds Jul 12 2016, 11:26 AM

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Posted by: Joan Newman Jan 19 2020, 02:02 AM

Same photos. Maybe bigger bye1.gif




 

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