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Posted by: Bobby May 26 2008, 04:30 PM

The famous skirt-blowing sequence from The Seven Year Itch is arguably the most famous and iconic movie scene in cinema history but the film has a lot more to offer than that. Tom Ewell re-produces the role he perfected in the Broadway production of the film while Marilyn plays his nameless neighbour, living upstairs in his apartment block. There are some very memorable lines and equally memorable visual shots as Ewell's character, Richard Sherman, tries to seduce his attractive acquaintance whilst battling his own conscience and terrific imagination.

There's no way, in my mind, that anybody else could have played Marilyn's character in this movie. It's every inch Marilyn and she certainly puts in another delightful performance. In truth, not an awful lot happens in the 105 minutes but it's pleasant from start to finish...particularly when Marilyn's in view. She truly lights up the screen and you really can't take your eyes off her. Did she ever look so beautiful? What do you think?

Posted by: Katri^ May 26 2008, 06:19 PM

This movie gets better every time I watch it biggrin.gif

When I first watched this, I didn't think that it was very funny. I thought that the jokes were too obvious (not in Marilyn's part, but Ewell's). But you know back then I did have pretty high expectations for the film. But now, I've noticed that everytime I laugh more than the last time.

Marilyn's performance was wonderful! She looked fantastic. I think the part is everything that, people who are not fans, think about Marilyn. MM was at her best during that film. You can see that she enjoyed making the film : )

Posted by: magda24 May 26 2008, 06:26 PM

I feel without Marilyn this movie woukd be terribly outdated now...I love her looks and her acting but for me this is one big Ewell's fantasy: someone like Marilyn actually falling for a guy like him.It doesn't happen I guess! But some scenes are hilarious, like this Rachmaninow one!And Marilyn look, when she says :We can do it all summer!"Priceless.

Posted by: Tara May 26 2008, 06:47 PM

I love this movie, it reminds me of long hot summer nights even if I watch it in the dead of winter. If you don't like Tom Ewell then this is not for you, but fortunately I do. Marilyn's performance transcends time, even though the film itself is dated and stagey. Marilyn is 'just elegant', and her comic timing is razor-sharp. She brings grace and wit to the most obvious lines, and ultimately it is Sherman who is the dumb one, not her. In a way that does mirror Marilyn's experiences with men.

Posted by: magda24 May 26 2008, 06:56 PM

QUOTE(Tara @ May 26 2008, 07:47 PM) *
I love this movie, it reminds me of long hot summer nights even if I watch it in the dead of winter. If you don't like Tom Ewell then this is not for you, but fortunately I do. Marilyn's performance transcends time, even though the film itself is dated and stagey. Marilyn is 'just elegant', and her comic timing is razor-sharp. She brings grace and wit to the most obvious lines, and ultimately it is Sherman who is the dumb one, not her. In a way that does mirror Marilyn's experiences with men.

Oh I like Ewell I just always thought Sherman was imagining the whole thing, since he was portrayed as a quite dull character, not someone who would be a love interest. And in fact, he isn't- everything happens in his head. I was talking about his character, not the actor, not being precise enough.

Posted by: Kowalczyk May 26 2008, 06:58 PM

Tara, I agree exactly with what you've said! clapping.gif

Posted by: Bobby May 26 2008, 06:59 PM

QUOTE(Tara @ May 26 2008, 05:47 PM) *
Marilyn is 'just elegant', and her comic timing is razor-sharp. She brings grace and wit to the most obvious lines, and ultimately it is Sherman who is the dumb one, not her. In a way that does mirror Marilyn's experiences with men.

Two very interesting and very accurate points there. Well said thumbup1.gif

Posted by: Tara May 26 2008, 08:11 PM

QUOTE(magda24 @ May 26 2008, 06:56 PM) *
Oh I like Ewell I just always thought Sherman was imagining the whole thing, since he was portrayed as a quite dull character, not someone who would be a love interest. And in fact, he isn't- everything happens in his head. I was talking about his character, not the actor, not being precise enough.


Some people have told me that Tom Ewell irritates them, that's what I meant. I know what you mean about it being Sherman's fantasy, the girl is a secondary character. It takes a great actress to make an impact like Marilyn did in that role.

Posted by: Lacrymosa May 26 2008, 08:24 PM

She looks so fresh in this movie ! Fresh and innocent, like a little girl enjoying life in a woman's body.
And I love how Marilyn can say stupid things without looking stupid !

Posted by: mmmMarilyn May 26 2008, 08:33 PM

This is without a doubt my favorite Marilyn movie--she just looks delectable, and even though her apartment is "like an oven" she does appear fresh and lovely the whole time! I show this to all my non-MM-loving friends and they laugh throughout and love it at the end. I even let my psychology teacher borrow it to see the...psychological aspects of it, which are evident even though it is a light romantic comedy! (She loved it too. biggrin.gif )
I think Marilyn has never been more beautiful or funnier than in The Seven Year Itch, I think the comedy holds up after all these years, and I hope to show it to my children and grandchildren someday!

How do you think the film would have been if Walter Matthau got the part of Richard Sherman, like he was supposed to? I saw it on the "AMC Backstory: The Seven Year Itch" that is a bonus feature on the SYI Diamond Collection DVD. I haven't watched it in a while but I know they showed his screentest and said that the studio didn't want to take a risk on a newcomer so they went with Ewell. I think he would have been brilliant and it may have been even funnier with him in place of Tom Ewell! How about you guys?

Posted by: Tara May 26 2008, 08:44 PM

QUOTE(mmmMarilyn @ May 26 2008, 08:33 PM) *
How do you think the film would have been if Walter Matthau got the part of Richard Sherman, like he was supposed to? I saw it on the "AMC Backstory: The Seven Year Itch" that is a bonus feature on the SYI Diamond Collection DVD. I haven't watched it in a while but I know they showed his screentest and said that the studio didn't want to take a risk on a newcomer so they went with Ewell. I think he would have been brilliant and it may have been even funnier with him in place of Tom Ewell! How about you guys?



I think Tom Ewell fits the role well because he's such a nerd, whereas Walter Matthau is more of a grouch. But he's one of my very favourite actors and I'd love to have seen him in a movie with MM.When asked what he thought she'd be like if she'd lived longer, Matthau replied 'I think she'd be just fine. She'd be president of the USA.' laugh.gif

Posted by: filthy22 May 26 2008, 08:50 PM

QUOTE(Tara @ May 26 2008, 08:44 PM) *
When asked what he thought she'd be like if she'd lived longer, Matthau replied 'I think she'd be just fine. She'd be president of the USA.' laugh.gif


Imagine that!!! biggrin.gif

I love SYI, it's one of my very favourites! Marilyn is so cute in it, her character is incredibley liekable! laugh.gif
The contrast between both characters work very well and there are some fabulous comedic moments.

Posted by: magda24 May 26 2008, 09:04 PM

QUOTE(Tara @ May 26 2008, 09:11 PM) *
Some people have told me that Tom Ewell irritates them, that's what I meant. I know what you mean about it being Sherman's fantasy, the girl is a secondary character. It takes a great actress to make an impact like Marilyn did in that role.

Oh, sorry!And yes, any other actress would just dissapear in this movie!

Posted by: lorileime May 27 2008, 12:37 AM

Marilyn was a very, very smart cookie to petition for this role. She is perfect for this character in every way. Tom Ewell, in my opinion, makes the movie and, although Mattau probably would have been funny, he wouldn't have been Richard Sherman. I just saw Matthau in Hello Dolly the other day and I loved him in that. Anyway, Marilyn lights up the screen with every inch of her soul in this movie and I love her as the girl upstairs. I couldn't imagine anyone else shining like she did in this role. In all of her movies, if she would have been paired with anyone else for a second time, I think I would have chosen Ewell.

Posted by: mmmMarilyn May 27 2008, 12:59 AM

I'm seriously in The Seven Year Itch-withdrawal mode, with it being packed away for my move---I can't wait to get down there and rip it out of the box, it'll be the first one I watch!!!

Posted by: abeautifulchild May 28 2008, 02:04 AM

I agree, everyone. I remember that George Axelrod said that if he had been writing the part later on he would have been tempted to call The Girl 'Marilyn' instead. She was that perfect. What was great about her performance was that in no way was the Girl trying to seduce Sherman at all, she had him at her feet just because she was The Girl, or rather, 'Marilyn Monroe.' I do think that, although Tom Ewell was amazing as Sherman (I too think that it can also be said that no one else could have played Sherman just as the same thing can be said in regards with Marilyn and The Girl), the movie dies when Marilyn is not on screen. But perhaps that isn't a fair thing to say because I feel this way about all of Marilyn's films- excepting The Misfits. I do think that the films that Marilyn made with Billy Wilder were her funniest performances, but I don't think that one can be ranked over the other, because in both TSYI and SLIH she was essentially playing the same role, which eventually goes back to the character she invented, 'Marilyn Monroe.' What I don't like about both of these films- the ONLY thing I don't like about both of these films- is that although Marilyn is the core of both these movies, she doesn't have nearly enough screen time. But all in all I find TSYI to be one of Marilyn's greatest performances. It's also interesting to note that this was before the Strasbergs had come into her life- she was such a natural. Wilder was right to call her a comedic genius- she had a great sense of timing in this film and I love her facial expressions for instance when she says, "Noo that's too icky" and yes, when she coos, "We can do this all summer..." Yeah, I think that if I was to introduce someone to Marilyn's movies as far as comedy goes, I would pick this one. Not to mention that she was IMO the most beautiful that she had been (up til that point) on screen, she looked so young and healthy; just absolutely lovely. Sooo to sum up, Marilyn was unforgettable in this movie- a delight.

Posted by: mmmMarilyn May 30 2008, 09:59 PM

When she says "We can do this all summer...hmm?" and gives that look, I would put that as number one on a list of most sensual/suggestive movie moments ever, even over anything that is more scandalous or from modern times or features WHATEVER, because it is the innocence and the demure night gown and the fluffiness of her hair and the raise of the eyebrows that makes it so surprising and titillating and enticing for ANY man, probably! wink3.gif
(that is the closest smiley I could find to "that look.." haha!)

EDIT: and I am a woman, and I still find it enchanting and foxy. hahaha!

Posted by: bruno May 30 2008, 11:05 PM

My favorite scene is when they are sitting on the floor, drinking champagne, eating potatoe ships, and then listening to Rachmaninov's second concerto of piano - She just looks absolutely beautiful there.

Posted by: lorileime May 30 2008, 11:57 PM

I just have to add this: My favorite scene is when she pops up in the chair and just says "Hi!". I love that!

Posted by: abeautifulchild May 31 2008, 01:35 AM

QUOTE(lorileime @ May 30 2008, 11:57 PM) *
I just have to add this: My favorite scene is when she pops up in the chair and just says "Hi!". I love that!



Oh yes, I love that part too! It's just so adorable! She had such a sweet voice.

Posted by: dwane May 31 2008, 01:53 AM

that's one of my fav scenes also, she melts my heart every time. smile1.gif

Posted by: Bobby May 31 2008, 10:58 AM

Oh yes! I always zoom in on my DVD to Marilyn's face popping out over the chair when she says 'Hi' to the janitor, then push rewind a few times. It's one of those moments in MM movies that makes you smile every single time you see it, bar none.

Also, don't you think she looks stunningly beautiful out on the sidewalk during 'that' scene? I mean, I know famously, all eyes were on Marilyn's shapely legs but her hair and make-up and everything else is just immaculate and she plays that scene wonderfully.

I have to say, I think my favourite scene (or lines) is (or are) the 'icebox' soliloquy laugh.gif


Posted by: mmmMarilyn Jun 1 2008, 02:04 AM

haha Bobby, I am a big fan of using the zoom for this movie as well! Her sitting in the chair, pondering how to keep herself cool while Richard is trying to figure everything out, I think she looks the most beautiful she ever has in a film--her hair, make up, everything is perfect, the teal/blue chair she is sitting against just makes it all pop, I love it!!!!!

EDIT: also, about the "HI!" ....I actually recorded her "Hi, it's me don't you remember--the tomato from upstairs!" and used it as my answering machine/voice mail thing on my cell phone, and people were always like, WHAT the heck is that? hahahaha!

Posted by: AdoreMarilynMonroe Jun 1 2008, 03:40 AM

I just watched the DVD a week ago, for the millionth time. It is one of my most-played films in my Marilyn DVD collection! Marilyn is a comedic genious in this movie. She has so many adorable moments in it! I particularly love the scene where Sherman is prattling on about psychoanaylsis and "The Girl" is musing to herself about how effective it would be to soak her undies in the icebox to cope with the heat, and then she determines "No, that's too icky!" Marilyn just cracks me up there every time! She's so infectious and adorable when she pops up with that charmimg "Hi!" I also LOVE Marilyn's completely deadpan delivery of "My fan is caught in the door, and when she's expaining the beach photoshoot to Sherman. smile1.gif I also think Sherman comes off more like he is the shall we say; less-smart one of the pair. I'll probably watch this or GPB tomorrow for Marilyn's birthday.

Posted by: abeautifulchild Jun 1 2008, 06:48 PM

QUOTE(AdoreMarilynMonroe @ Jun 1 2008, 03:40 AM) *
I just watched the DVD a week ago, for the millionth time. It is one of my most-played films in my Marilyn DVD collection! Marilyn is a comedic genious in this movie. She has so many adorable moments in it! I particularly love the scene where Sherman is prattling on about psychoanaylsis and "The Girl" is musing to herself about how effective it would be to soak her undies in the icebox to cope with the heat, and then she determines "No, that's too icky!" Marilyn just cracks me up there every time! She's so infectious and adorable when she pops up with that charmimg "Hi!" I also LOVE Marilyn's completely deadpan delivery of "My fan is caught in the door, and when she's expaining the beach photoshoot to Sherman. smile1.gif I also think Sherman comes off more like he is the shall we say; less-smart one of the pair. I'll probably watch this or GPB tomorrow for Marilyn's birthday.



I LOVE that scene! Probably my favorite!

Posted by: Katri^ Jun 1 2008, 07:32 PM

QUOTE(AdoreMarilynMonroe @ Jun 1 2008, 03:40 AM) *
I just watched the DVD a week ago, for the millionth time. It is one of my most-played films in my Marilyn DVD collection! Marilyn is a comedic genious in this movie. She has so many adorable moments in it! I particularly love the scene where Sherman is prattling on about psychoanaylsis and "The Girl" is musing to herself about how effective it would be to soak her undies in the icebox to cope with the heat, and then she determines "No, that's too icky!" Marilyn just cracks me up there every time! She's so infectious and adorable when she pops up with that charmimg "Hi!" I also LOVE Marilyn's completely deadpan delivery of "My fan is caught in the door, and when she's expaining the beach photoshoot to Sherman. smile1.gif I also think Sherman comes off more like he is the shall we say; less-smart one of the pair. I'll probably watch this or GPB tomorrow for Marilyn's birthday.


That is definitely my favorite scene from all of her films! biggrin.gif She is so serious about the subject that she is talking about to herself!

Posted by: abeautifulchild Jun 1 2008, 07:39 PM

QUOTE(Katri^ @ Jun 1 2008, 07:32 PM) *
She is so serious about the subject that she is talking about to herself!



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Posted by: abeautifulchild Jun 17 2008, 05:37 PM

You know, I was watching this again last night and I realized that this is the only movie where I like every single one of Marilyn's costumes. They all looked fabulous on her and none of them were over the top- or something that only Marilyn could have pulled off (except THAT dress, of course). They were designed by Travilla weren't they? He did an excellent job.

I always come across these two outfits (below), but they aren't in the movie.
Does anyone know why that is and what scenes Marilyn would have worn them in if they had been in the movie?

 

Posted by: Elsie Marina Jun 17 2008, 06:06 PM

I don't know about the second one but I seem to recall reading that the first one was supposed to be for a Mae West style fantasy. I can't remember where I read that though.

Posted by: Tara Jun 17 2008, 08:12 PM

Yes the first one was based on Mae West, she was going to be a gangster's moll and she and the janitor were going to blackmail Sherman. Billy Wilder said that Marilyn couldn't quite pull off Mae's hard-boiled style so the scene was axed. I wonder if it still exists though - would be great to see it as an extra feature on a DVD.

Posted by: Tiina Jul 11 2008, 06:37 AM

This is probably my favourite Marilyn movie. It's hard to pick a favourite, but I've noticed that if I feel like watching a Marilyn movie I more often than not pick The Seven Year Itch. It's just such a funny movie, both Marilyn and Tom make me laugh my head off every time! I love all the jokes and there are so many memorable scenes in the movie. And so many memorable quotes as well! I love to use them in my every day life lol! laugh.gif Like "Oh sure!" and "I drink like a fish!" smile1.gif "It's real crazy!" "It shakes me! It quakes me! It makes me feel goose-pimply all over!" OMG I can't stop! clapping.gif "I think that's just elegant." throb.gif And Marilyn was so beautiful in this. yes.gif Although she was beautiful in all of her movies but here she just shines. She's Marilyn Monroe!

By the way I love the scene where Sherman screams "Maybe it's Marilyn Monroe!" laughing.gif

Posted by: Bobby Jul 11 2008, 08:52 AM

QUOTE(Tiina @ Jul 11 2008, 07:37 AM) *
And so many memorable quotes as well! I love to use them in my every day life lol!

It's reassuring to know that I'm not alone in doing this laugh.gif

Posted by: Fabrice Jul 11 2008, 10:33 AM

It's also one of my favourites, it's funny and Marilyn is marvellous, smiling, and at the top of her beauty.

Posted by: mmmMarilyn Aug 8 2008, 06:17 PM

I am going to pop this movie in in about two seconds, I am having a SYI craving!!!

Posted by: Vicoria Hoffman 1975 Aug 8 2008, 07:36 PM

I just love it how he imagines she will be wearing some sohisticated evening gown and then she turns up in her casual trousers and shirt!

Posted by: SRT80 Aug 8 2008, 09:10 PM

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Posted by: ellen Aug 9 2008, 07:03 AM

QUOTE(SRT80 @ Aug 8 2008, 09:10 PM) *
I have just started watchin' Marilyn's movies and readin' about her life. All I ever known was just her beauty in photos. So far I have seen "Bus Stop" and "The Seven Year Itch". I really enjoyed both.

"Champagne and potato chips!!!" biggrin.gif

Steve


oooh yes please Steve laugh.gif

Posted by: mmmMarilyn Aug 9 2008, 01:55 PM

I was just watching this last night and found myself laughing even harder than I ever had before--maybe I was in a good mood, but I just found it all to be so hilarious! It was like I was reading into it at a deeper level if that makes sense...everything Marilyn was saying was just so funny to me, and it is almost as if I finally understand how people always say that she was "in on the joke"--I mean, I know she was a very, very smart girl but you can see she's having so much fun with the character she plays, she's almost got a hint of sarcasm in her eyes as she's acting--instead of her movie characters blending and becoming synonymous with "Marilyn Monroe" it seems as though she's ... trying to separate herself from it while still acting it out brilliantly....I know what I'm trying to say but it is not coming out right or intelligibly so I hope somebody else gets it! I am trying to think of an example from the movie but I can't right now....but the bottom line is, I saw this movie in a different light last night!
PS--Does anybody know why Sherman advises The Girl to never put sugar in a martini? I don't drink so I wouldn't know if Sherman is being serious or if that's just a joke?

Posted by: MissCaswell Aug 9 2008, 08:15 PM

Well, there isn't sugar in a martini, it's just not supposed to be a sweet drink I guess smile1.gif

I've always loved the part where the girl tells Sherman about her job on the toothpaste commercial, says her line ("I had onions at lunch, garlic at dinner, but he'll never know...") and then does the classic "Marilyn pose" with open mouth smile and head tilted back, and he says "You do that beautifully". I've always interpreted that as an illustration of how she, as you say, Colby, is in on the joke. They're both in on doing a parody on her Marilyn persona, joking about it.

Posted by: mmmMarilyn Aug 9 2008, 09:54 PM

EXACTLY, that's what it was!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When she says normally "I kind of sit there like this" and then suddenly BAM she morphs for two seconds and gives the smile and then the shoulders fall, the face drops, her eyes lower, and she continues, "for about 14 seconds, and I get to speak lines too" and then goes back into it--I was DYING laughing over that part just for the reason you said Erica, thanks for jogging my memory!!!

Posted by: Mezzo Aug 10 2008, 01:01 AM

I found this interesting page about the movie and play:
http://www.moviediva.com/MD_root/reviewpages/MDSevenYearItch.htm

Posted by: mmmMarilyn Aug 10 2008, 02:08 AM

Cool, thanks Mary!

Posted by: Mezzo Aug 10 2008, 02:14 AM

You're welcome. bye1.gif

Posted by: princesshapnick Aug 24 2008, 03:00 PM

Marilyn was so adorable in this film. And I think it's good that it came out when she was at the highest peak of her fame. This film, along with SLIH, were two of her very best ever, I think. Two ultimate '50s movies.

jumpymm.gif

Posted by: mazfan Aug 24 2008, 05:18 PM

This is true, how come we can watch MMs movies literally over and over and we never get tired of them? They are just hypnotic!



QUOTE(Katri^ @ May 26 2008, 06:19 PM) *
This movie gets better every time I watch it biggrin.gif

When I first watched this, I didn't think that it was very funny. I thought that the jokes were too obvious (not in Marilyn's part, but Ewell's). But you know back then I did have pretty high expectations for the film. But now, I've noticed that everytime I laugh more than the last time.

Marilyn's performance was wonderful! She looked fantastic. I think the part is everything that, people who are not fans, think about Marilyn. MM was at her best during that film. You can see that she enjoyed making the film : )

Posted by: Kowalczyk Oct 16 2008, 07:18 PM

I watched TSYI again today and noticed two things; doubtless they have been before, but anyway:

a. The Rachmaninoff theme is the same one used in Brief Encounter (also about adultery but in a less comedic way!)

b. I think it's pretty funny how the director teases the audience with The Girl's "Textures" photo - he doesn't show it for quite a while and when he does, it's for a split second!

Posted by: pinup Oct 17 2008, 08:05 PM

I dont even think I can remember seeing the 'Textures' picture in the movie... Ah well an excuse to watch it again! lol

Posted by: Bobby Oct 17 2008, 08:20 PM

QUOTE(pinup @ Oct 17 2008, 09:05 PM) *
I dont even think I can remember seeing the 'Textures' picture in the movie... Ah well an excuse to watch it again! lol

Absolutely! Yep, we definitely get a brief glimpse of the photograph and incidentally, I've always wondered whether it's a real photo of Marilyn from a shoot she did in her younger days. Anyone know?

And Angela - you're right, Rachmaninov's second piano concerto was played in Brief 'Encounter' too! Good work! I didn't actually notice it in BE but I did see it in the credits blush.gif

Posted by: MissCaswell Oct 18 2008, 04:39 PM

I paused once to get a better look at the textures pic, and no, it doesn't look like Marilyn to me.

Posted by: Lacrymosa Oct 18 2008, 07:26 PM

We already talked about that,I can't find the thread where I posted the picture but everyone agreed to say it was not Marilyn.

Posted by: Bobby Oct 18 2008, 08:12 PM

Ah right, fair enough then. Thanks for answering that question thumbup1.gif

Posted by: lorileime Oct 18 2008, 09:12 PM

Really??? Because it looks like her to me.

Posted by: Lacrymosa Oct 19 2008, 09:26 AM

Here is the pic


Posted by: lorileime Oct 19 2008, 09:53 PM

I still say it's her.

Posted by: Vicoria Hoffman 1975 Oct 19 2008, 10:51 PM

It looks a lot like the costme from 'love nest'

Posted by: lorileime Oct 19 2008, 10:51 PM

QUOTE(Vicoria Hoffman 1975 @ Oct 19 2008, 05:51 PM) *
It looks a lot like the costme from 'love est'

And so does the time period

Posted by: nicky62 Oct 19 2008, 10:52 PM

This is the Bikini she is wearing banana.gif
nicky62

 

Posted by: abeautifulchild Oct 20 2008, 04:00 AM

I just don't see it. I always pause the movie to see the shot better and I never thought she resembled Marilyn.

Posted by: Lacrymosa Oct 20 2008, 09:10 AM

How can you tell it's the same bathing suit ? We just see the back of it, and you know the polka dots were everywhere at this time !
To me it really doesn't look like her.

Posted by: MissCaswell Oct 20 2008, 01:53 PM

The pose and the shape of the eye and the eyebrow just don't feel like Marilyn to me. I don't think it's her, but I think they deliberatly used a model that looked a lot like Marilyn did a couple of years earlier.

Posted by: Paju Nov 16 2008, 10:38 AM

QUOTE(abeautifulchild @ Jun 17 2008, 06:37 PM) *
You know, I was watching this again last night and I realized that this is the only movie where I like every single one of Marilyn's costumes. They all looked fabulous on her and none of them were over the top- or something that only Marilyn could have pulled off (except THAT dress, of course). They were designed by Travilla weren't they? He did an excellent job.

I always come across these two outfits (below), but they aren't in the movie.
Does anyone know why that is and what scenes Marilyn would have worn them in if they had been in the movie?

I'm a little late replying to this, but I believe the second outfit, white shorts and a white top were deemed too risque and in the movie, she wears in the pink outfit instead.

QUOTE(mmmMarilyn @ Aug 9 2008, 10:54 PM) *
EXACTLY, that's what it was!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When she says normally "I kind of sit there like this" and then suddenly BAM she morphs for two seconds and gives the smile and then the shoulders fall, the face drops, her eyes lower, and she continues, "for about 14 seconds, and I get to speak lines too" and then goes back into it--I was DYING laughing over that part just for the reason you said Erica, thanks for jogging my memory!!!

I love that too! She does it so well laughing.gif

And I think I started a topic on the Picture investigation forum about the Textures picture a long time ago. I still can't make up my mind about whether or not it's Marilyn. It would make sense that it is her, because she was a model too and there are lots of suitable pictures of her. On the other hand, maybe they couldn't use a picture of her for some reason.

Posted by: darknstormyx0 Nov 22 2008, 04:36 AM

7 Year Itch is one of my top three MM movies. Right after How to Marry a Millionaire, and Gentlemen Prefer Blonds. I LOVED her in this part, I thought it was written just for her?

Posted by: Alanma Nov 22 2008, 07:40 PM

It was a successful Broadway play rewritten with Marilyn in mind. Tom Ewell played the same part in both versions.

Similarly, the West End theatre hit 'The Sleeping Prince' was rewritten for Marilyn as 'The Prince and the Showgirl', with Olivier playing the Prince in both versions.

Posted by: lorileime Sep 27 2009, 03:23 AM

This might seem like a weird place to do this but if you click on the link and then listen to track number 3, you'll know why I put it there. The song is called A Letter To Three Wives and it's the theme song for a movie by the same name. Does it sound familiar?
http://www.amazon.com/Alfred-Newman-Conducts-Classic-Picture/dp/B000VUBWCY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1254020041&sr=8-1
Sorry for doing it this way, it's the only way I knew how. I hope it works.

Posted by: Scottish Sugar Sep 29 2009, 02:04 PM

Yes it does! That's def the same music featured in SYI, obv just arranged and played slightly differently.
xx

Posted by: tom Dec 26 2009, 08:06 AM

I love this, It is the funniest i've seen Marilyn so far. biggrin.gif

Posted by: waif55 Jan 2 2010, 04:17 AM

QUOTE(Tara @ Jun 17 2008, 11:12 AM) *
Yes the first one was based on Mae West, she was going to be a gangster's moll and she and the janitor were going to blackmail Sherman. Billy Wilder said that Marilyn couldn't quite pull off Mae's hard-boiled style so the scene was axed. I wonder if it still exists though - would be great to see it as an extra feature on a DVD.
I think the scene was axed because of lenght. It was supposed to be burlesque of a tough cookie and I'm sure MM was up to it. The other, the shorts? Welll, beleive it or not, the entire first sequence was filmed with MMi n this get-up. SUPER short shorts and a blouse tied up around her middle. Then they looked at it again and wisely decided it was way too much MM! They put her in the adorable pants and shirt and re-filmed the whole thing. But wouldn't it be great to see that footage?
QUOTE(pinup @ Oct 17 2008, 11:05 AM) *
I dont even think I can remember seeing the 'Textures' picture in the movie... Ah well an excuse to watch it again! lol
The thing is, the inclusion of that picture (I don't think it's MM) was part of the censorship. Clearly, the way she and Ewell talked about it, it was a shot of The Girl in the nude. But the Code at the time must have insisted on showing that The Girl did not pose naked!

Posted by: KingAl May 5 2010, 03:52 PM

It's one of my favourites. It really a good comedy.

Posted by: iheartMarilyn4ever Jul 14 2010, 05:20 PM

To be honest its really not one of my favoriates because they really did make her look like a dumb blond after that. I mean she didn't even have a name. I don't know I just thought it was to much for me. coolio.gif

Posted by: Scottish Sugar Aug 17 2010, 03:45 PM

QUOTE(iheartMarilyn4ever @ Jul 14 2010, 05:20 PM) *
To be honest its really not one of my favoriates because they really did make her look like a dumb blond after that. I mean she didn't even have a name. I don't know I just thought it was to much for me. coolio.gif


I personally believe it was intentional, the fact that she wasn't given a name, it makes her seem like a "dream", the perfect fantasy, also, the fact that's she's almost always dressed in white, or light pink colours, again gives her an almost "heavenly" quality.

That's just my theory anyway. marilynbybrandon_190.gif

Posted by: Maneki Neko Aug 24 2010, 09:23 PM

I think this is a great movie and both Marilyn and Tom Ewell are really funny. Marilyn looks absolutely stunning! I love her look in this movie.


Posted by: CYRILPARIS Oct 14 2011, 01:39 PM

from new Susan Bernard's book Marilyn Intimate Exposures












 

Posted by: CYRILPARIS Nov 10 2011, 09:57 PM

from Julien's auction catalog 2011 Icons and Idols Hollywood Catalog December 1st&2nd, 2011

 

Posted by: Diamond Dec 25 2012, 12:37 PM


Truly Classic! Loved it. The only thing that makes me laugh about this movie is that sometimes people tell me they love Marilyn and don't even watch 'the seven year itch' or even the most classic scene of Marilyn of 'the subway dress' !


Posted by: Nettie May 5 2013, 04:04 PM

[quote name='CYRILPARIS' post='208591' date='Oct 14 2011, 12:39 PM']from new Susan Bernard's book Marilyn Intimate Exposures



Thank you Eric for your scans. They are beautiful. clapping.gif I looked thru this book today and it was LOVELY. Great quality pictures, though not one rare. I personally would never buy it just because it has Lindsey Lohan's foreword on Marilyn.

Posted by: marilyn144 Aug 15 2013, 04:55 AM

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Posted by: CYRILPARIS Aug 28 2013, 09:10 PM

my scans from Eliott Erwitt Kolor new book, in not big size cause thieves of photos...


 

Posted by: marilyn144 Aug 29 2013, 12:43 AM

clapping.gif clapping.gif wauuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu thanks!!!

Posted by: chris Sep 10 2013, 03:58 PM

Thanks to on ebay's seller I've learnt something today.

"Just some hours before entering to Cedars of Lebanon Hospital for a minor surgery" November 8 1954 according to the picture.




 

Posted by: EDUARDO CABALLERO Sep 11 2013, 11:41 PM

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Posted by: Scottish Sugar Sep 21 2013, 12:13 PM

QUOTE(CYRILPARIS @ Aug 28 2013, 09:10 PM) *
my scans from Eliott Erwitt Kolor new book, in not big size cause thieves of photos...



Absolutely amazing!! Thankyou!

Posted by: lorileime Jun 7 2014, 12:39 PM

Has anyone ever read the original play by George Axelrod for this movie? I just finished reading it and it is very different from the movie. The girl's commercial is for Twill clothes washing detergent. There are no workplace scenes, only fantasy scenes, for Richard. The janitor is never seen, only talked about. But the biggest difference is that there is no implication that the two of them slept together, like in the movie. In the original play, THEY REALLY DO SLEEP TOGETHER. And it's her idea, not his. And they do it because it would be fun, not because there's no air conditioning upstairs and she's suffering in the heat (which is why she wants to stay downstairs in the movie). There is also a lot of cursing by Richard, which is not in the movie. And there is one fantasy scene that I wish they would have put in the movie where, the girl, after having slept with Richard, tells Richard that she is in love with him and that they should tell Helen together that she and Richard are now together. A lot of the individual lines that Marilyn says are the same. But most of the really funny stuff is added for the movie, like Richard falling on the skate, and the janitor and the dog story. I just was wondering if anyone else had read it and how they felt about it. To me it was much more 'scandalous' for the 50's as it was written, and much more sugarcoated for the movie. There isn't even a scene where they go to the movies and then her skirt blows up. None of that. In the original, she goes to the movies alone.

Posted by: audreyfan1 Jun 7 2014, 08:18 PM

^I have a copy of Axelrod's original play, but I haven't read it yet. I know that because of Hays Code censorship the movie had to be much less racy than the play. A lot of things in the play had to be changed for the movie, like one of the principles of the censorship code was that adultery must not be justified or presented attractively, which is why if they had slept together in the movie it would've had to have had horrible "end-of-the-world" consequences for Richard and the Girl. And in the Hays Code, it says that any character who commits a crime, either a crime against law or against morality, must be punished in the end; that such characters can't have a happy ending. And it says that "sex perversion" (which I think refers to homosexuality) cannot be shown or referenced in a film, which is why Richard can't actually say that the "interior decorators" who live together in the building are gay, he can only kinda sort of imply that they might be gay. And the Hays Code also says that the audience can't be made to feel sympathy for immorality, which is why in the movie Richard and The Girl don't actually commit these "crimes against morality", Richard only thinks about it, fantasizes about it, and on top of that, he always ends up feeling so guilty for even thinking about it, but he stays a moral character by not giving in to his desires and staying faithful to his wife, so he can have a happy ending and the audience can sympathize with him in the end.

I have heard or read somewhere that Billy Wilder said that he wished he could've made TSYI without having to incorporate all the censorship rules and if he could've gone back in time and re-made it the way he originally wanted to make it, he would have.

Posted by: lorileime Jun 7 2014, 11:31 PM

I didn't even think about the Hays Code. Thanks for reminding me. It's too bad that they couldn't have done it the way it was written. In the original, the fact that they slept together is treated as nonchalantly as having a cup of coffee. As if to say, it happens all the time and that's just the way it is. It probably would have accelerated the sexual revolution of the 60's, especially if Marilyn would have been able to be the accelerant.

Posted by: Celia Jun 10 2014, 08:40 PM

Anita Looseīs novel was first published in 1925. Obviously those were better, freer times!
Censorship always comes from very frustrated, hypocrital people. If only we could know what this Hayes did in his personal life! We would surely be astound

Posted by: JC 96816 Jun 15 2015, 08:58 PM

marilynbybrandon_190.gif 1955 12 55 Screen Stories Here's Hollywood Column - MM is not on the cover. There is nothing else in the table of contents. I found this on Ebay today...




 

Posted by: Mezzo Jan 19 2017, 01:25 PM

Maybe this has already been posted about newly discovered video from the subway scene - from 1/13/17:
http://variety.com/2017/film/news/marilyn-monroe-subway-scene-new-released-clip-1201960327/

From the New York Times website:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/13/nyregion/marilyn-monroe-skirt-blowing-new-york-film.html?rref=collection%2Ftimestopic%2FMonroe%2C%20Marilyn&action=click&contentCollection=timestopics&region=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=1&pgtype=collection

And some video from youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIhlTl0_eGA

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