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Posted by: Bobby May 26 2008, 03:42 PM

This is Marilyn's most successful and memorable film. It regularly appears in magazine and critics' lists as one of the very best comedies of all time and its popularity means it is the film that, more than any other, helps Marilyn reach a new audience outside her own fanbase. Her performance as Sugar Kane, a beautiful but unlucky-in-love singer in a jazz band, was a big hit at the box office and is surely her most famous role. Co-starring Tony Curtis and Jack Lemmon, Some Like it Hot is a masterpiece in comedy directed by the brilliant Billy Wilder.

How can you possibly not like this film? It's a joy to watch. The script is sensational and the acting top-notch. There's so many laugh out loud moments but none more so than the famous last line "Nobody's perfect" laugh.gif I know Marilyn famously had some troubles on the set but as Wilder himself said, it sure was worth it when you see the finished article. What did you think?

Posted by: Tara May 26 2008, 04:22 PM

I have seen this more times than any other movie, so it has lost some of its novelty for me. But I never fail to be drawn in by its warmth and magic. Marilyn made what was a minor comedy part into something real and poignant. Marilyn was much smarter than Sugar, obviously, but I see so much of her in the character - the kind heart and innocent optimism despite constantly being let down by others. She's probably the most appealing character Marilyn ever played, IMO. I think Norman Mailer was right, without Marilyn it would be just a very funny movie. She gives it a heart and soul. A century from now, people will still be watching this movie and falling in love with Sugar Kane alias Marilyn.

Posted by: Bobby May 26 2008, 04:32 PM

So very true, well said Tara, every word.

Do you think - and this may be controversial - that there's a parrallel to be made between some of Marilyn's early years in Hollywood and the scene where 'Junior' seduces 'Sugar' into passionate embraces?


Posted by: magda24 May 26 2008, 04:32 PM

I agree, without Marilyn it would be series of funny sketches without anything solid to bind them.

Posted by: princesshapnick May 26 2008, 07:15 PM

This is my favourite movie of all time. It has two of my favourite stars - Marilyn Monroe and Jack Lemmon. In my opinion, they are two of the 'strongest' characters in the movie and I always smile at them whenever I watch this film. I have seen it too many times to count but I never get tired of it. It's a timeless feel-good movie, which is still magic.

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Posted by: lorileime May 27 2008, 01:16 AM

Jack Lemmon is a master in this film and I'd watch it a thousand times just to see him. He's cracks me up every time. Marilyn is just "Sugar" on the cake, or do I mean icing? She's sweet, vulnerable, touching, funny, and child-like. What a genious she was to take a supporting role and turn it into her most memorable ever. She Sugar believable and loveable. One of my favorites.

Posted by: dwane May 27 2008, 08:35 PM

this is one of my all time favorite movies of all time. marilyn is absoloutely amazing as sugar and i think that without her it would have been nothing. i can definately see why this is such a popular movie even today.

Posted by: abeautifulchild May 28 2008, 02:53 AM

This was the first Marilyn movie I ever saw so it holds a special place in my heart. I just LOVE this movie! Marilyn was excellent, there's not much else to say. She took an idiot and made her lovable and real. She was SO funny and also angelic. So sweet. When I first saw her I was just absolutely amazed and stunned by her beauty and her voice- I remember she reminded me of a blonde Snow White. There's so many scenes that I love from this film- ALL the scenes on the train, when she first meets Junior, the seduction scene on the yacht was hilarious because it was the reversal of what you would have been expecting, and then there was Marilyn's singing which was great. I love how, for once, there is another actor whose talent is level with Marilyn's- Jack Lemmon. He was so funny and terrific as Daphne. He was far better than Tony Curtis was. IMO anyone could have played Joe/Josephine, but there was no one else who could have been Sugar or Daphne/Gerry. Billy Wilder was a genius, he really did a good job with this too. This movie was voted the funniest movie of all time, I believe, and rightly so! It ranks as my second favorite MM movie, definitely.

Posted by: Katri^ May 28 2008, 11:31 AM

This was also my first MM film I saw, and no wonder I became a fan! biggrin.gif Some like it hot is probably ( at least now ) my favorite MM movie. The thing that makes it good, is that the characters aren't so, you know, plain. Now it's not only about Marilyn (though I don't mind if it were so). The performances were more equal, and it's not so in many of her films. She usually outshines everyone else completely, but now, for example, Jack Lemmon is amazing too!

I love the story, and the characters are so funny, especially Sugar and Daphne/Jerry biggrin.gif

Posted by: princesshapnick May 31 2008, 08:57 PM

Yes, I would say that my favourite characters are Sugar and Jerry/Daphne! marilynbybrandon_190.gif

Posted by: JanCollector Jun 1 2008, 05:10 PM

Brilliant film, her absolute best.

Posted by: lorelei Jun 1 2008, 06:10 PM

This is the 1-st Marilyn movie that i've watched.
So it's just great movie!

Posted by: Elsie Marina Jun 17 2008, 05:41 PM

This was the first Marilyn film I ever saw as well! laugh.gif

This is rightfully one of the greatest comedies of all time IMO, so many funny lines, also when I try to convert people to become Marilyn fans, this si the film I use! laugh.gif

Posted by: Brigitte Jun 22 2008, 03:09 PM

I Love this film! I just watched it last night and I can't beleive that dress! Wowza!

Posted by: princesshapnick Jul 13 2008, 06:45 PM

She looks fabulous in this movie and I'm sure it's pretty hard to get away with wearing the dresses that she did in this film!

Posted by: mmmMarilyn Jul 14 2008, 12:03 PM

I just watched it yesterday too, and that dress was just the most magical thing ever....it like, defies gravity and nature and a million other things, and yet she still looks adorable and precious in it, while if somebody showed up on a red carpet today--somebody lacking the qualities that she had--we'd probably say, YIKES!!!!! Put some clothes on! hahaha, this movie is pure genius, so hilarious, and I could watch it a million times and still laugh like it was the first.

Posted by: princesshapnick Aug 2 2008, 08:52 PM

QUOTE(mmmMarilyn @ Jul 14 2008, 12:03 PM) *
I just watched it yesterday too, and that dress was just the most magical thing ever....it like, defies gravity and nature and a million other things, and yet she still looks adorable and precious in it, while if somebody showed up on a red carpet today--somebody lacking the qualities that she had--we'd probably say, YIKES!!!!! Put some clothes on! hahaha, this movie is pure genius, so hilarious, and I could watch it a million times and still laugh like it was the first.



I totally agree to everything you mentioned!! Yesterday, I watched the two documentaries on the Collector's Edition DVD. I just love to watch them every now and then! Just seeing everybody talk about the film, especially how wonderful MM was in the film, makes me smile!

Posted by: dwane Aug 4 2008, 09:52 PM

there's one thing i've always wondered, if the band called for ONLY blondes why did josephine (tony curtis) have brown hair? maybe i just missed something in the movie that states that they (sweet sue) didn't care what hair color the girl had, just as long as she could play the saxaphone. i hope all this makes sense, haha.

it just doesn't make sense to me, if they only wanted blondes why did tony curtis wear a brown wig? wouldn't it have made more sense if it were blonde?

Posted by: Vicoria Hoffman 1975 Aug 4 2008, 10:00 PM

I always wondered that too about the wig! I thought perhaps it was a different shade of blonde that didnt show up well in b&w til I saw a colour still of it. Maybe she was just glad of someone turning up.

I do wish Marilyns 'I wanna be loved by you' had more of her singing it though. Josephine and Daphne seem to be talking through most of the end of it til the last line! (and it is probably her second most famous song!)

Posted by: lorileime Aug 4 2008, 10:12 PM

QUOTE(dwane @ Aug 4 2008, 04:52 PM) *
there's one thing i've always wondered, if the band called for ONLY blondes why did josephine (tony curtis) have brown hair? maybe i just missed something in the movie that states that they (sweet sue) didn't care what hair color the girl had, just as long as she could play the saxaphone. i hope all this makes sense, haha.

it just doesn't make sense to me, if they only wanted blondes why did tony curtis wear a brown wig? wouldn't it have made more sense if it were blonde?

Tell me please, where in the movie it says they all had to be blonde. I missed that all together.

Posted by: dwane Aug 4 2008, 11:20 PM

it's at the beginning, it's been a while since i've seen it but i think when they went into that office and the guy said "you need to be blonde... and girl!"

Posted by: abeautifulchild Aug 5 2008, 01:03 AM

Didn't Jack Lemmon wear a red wig too? blink.gif

Posted by: dwane Aug 5 2008, 01:22 AM

his was more of a blonde tone.

Posted by: lorileime Aug 5 2008, 09:16 PM

QUOTE(dwane @ Aug 4 2008, 06:20 PM) *
it's at the beginning, it's been a while since i've seen it but i think when they went into that office and the guy said "you need to be blonde... and girl!"
Right. I have to go watch it again. blush.gif
QUOTE(lorileime @ Aug 5 2008, 04:07 PM) *
Right. I have to go watch it again. blush.gif
You gotta be under 25-we can pass for that**You gotta be blonde-we can dye our hair**and you gotta be girls-we can...no we can't. This is such a funny movie. clapping.gif

Posted by: abeautifulchild Aug 6 2008, 05:49 AM

QUOTE(dwane @ Aug 5 2008, 01:22 AM) *
his was more of a blonde tone.


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But look, Dwane...

 

Posted by: princesshapnick Aug 6 2008, 01:14 PM

I always thought Jack wore a blonde wig, but just scanning through my colour SLIH photos, they are mostly red-ish wigs! I always only thought that Tony Curtis had the darker coloured wig. But in black and white, it looks more blonde...


Posted by: Bobby Aug 6 2008, 09:21 PM

Daphne also tells Osgood in the motorboat at the end of the picture, that he/she isn't "a natural blonde".

Posted by: lorileime Aug 6 2008, 10:36 PM

Dapne was a strawberry blonde. Maybe she was Irish!
Daphne O'Manley

Posted by: dwane Aug 7 2008, 12:30 AM

QUOTE(abeautifulchild @ Aug 6 2008, 05:49 AM) *
blink.gif huh.gif

But look, Dwane...



it does look very red there but as tony said, it was probably more of a strawberry blonde.

Posted by: abeautifulchild Aug 7 2008, 01:31 AM

QUOTE(dwane @ Aug 7 2008, 12:30 AM) *
it does look very red there but as tony said, it was probably more of a strawberry blonde.


Ah, that makes perfect sense guys.

Posted by: lorileime Aug 7 2008, 03:10 AM

You know, you can't really go by what the color pictures look like anyway. When they filmed The Wizard of Oz, Dorothy's white blouse in the black and white parts of the movie was actually pink in color. Then, for the color shots, it was a different blouse that was actually white. I think they did that so the white blouse wouldn't show up too white in black and white and get too washed out. So, I guess in black and white movies, different colors produce different shades of black and white and grey. Strawberry blonds is a more subdued blonde than Marilyn's white blonde. And to us, it just shows up as two different shades of blonde.

Posted by: abeautifulchild Aug 7 2008, 03:38 AM

QUOTE(lorileime @ Aug 7 2008, 03:10 AM) *
You know, you can't really go by what the color pictures look like anyway. When they filmed The Wizard of Oz, Dorothy's white blouse in the black and white parts of the movie was actually pink in color. Then, for the color shots, it was a different blouse that was actually white. I think they did that so the white blouse wouldn't show up too white in black and white and get too washed out. So, I guess in black and white movies, different colors produce different shades of black and white and grey. Strawberry blonds is a more subdued blonde than Marilyn's white blonde. And to us, it just shows up as two different shades of blonde.


Excellent point, Tony. Never thought of that!

I've noticed too that some of the girls' hair in Sweet Sue's band do seem to have the same shade of Marilyn's hair in B&W, but in color it's a different story...

And boy, that really came as a shock to me RE: The Wizard of Oz!

Posted by: princesshapnick Aug 7 2008, 12:00 PM

Oh! Of course! Strawberry blonde! That does make perfect sense.

Posted by: lorileime Aug 7 2008, 08:15 PM

QUOTE(abeautifulchild @ Aug 6 2008, 10:38 PM) *
Excellent point, Tony. Never thought of that!

I've noticed too that some of the girls' hair in Sweet Sue's band do seem to have the same shade of Marilyn's hair in B&W, but in color it's a different story...

And boy, that really came as a shock to me RE: The Wizard of Oz!

It also depends on what kind of color film and the type of processing you're using. In 1939, it was very different than 1959, but I'm sure that different shades of white, beige, ivory, gray taupe all looked like different shades of 'white' on black and white film.

Posted by: nino89 Aug 31 2008, 12:18 PM

It was on tv this morning biggrin.gif I saw it for ...I don't know....8-9 time?? And ofcorse I like it biggrin.gif Everytime more biggrin.gif She is realy great in it smile1.gif 

Posted by: princesshapnick Aug 31 2008, 06:08 PM

Yes! I caught the last ten minutes or so of it early in the morning and I also saw the whole of the beach sequence when it was repeated later on so I decided to get out my copy of the collector's edition and watched the special features - for the millionth time! coolio.gif

Posted by: magda24 Aug 31 2008, 07:55 PM

Here you can see both Jack's and Tony's wigs

 

Posted by: nino89 Sep 1 2008, 01:10 PM

QUOTE(princesshapnick @ Aug 31 2008, 07:08 PM) *
Yes! I caught the last ten minutes or so of it early in the morning and I also saw the whole of the beach sequence when it was repeated later on so I decided to get out my copy of the collector's edition and watched the special features - for the millionth time! coolio.gif


It was in England too??  clapping.gif I'm from Serbia, FOX played it biggrin.gif It was realy great biggrin.gif I love to see her movies on tv biggrin.gif  banana.gif

Posted by: Bobby Dec 21 2008, 10:05 PM

I watched SLIH again this week and I had a thought. When Sugar plays the ukulele on the train (during Runnin' Wild), it sort of works. But can you possibly imagine seeing Marilyn in that eye-poppingly risqué silver gown, sitting amongst the other band members strumming on the ukulele?! No wonder there were no scenes like that; it just wouldn't look believeable! laugh.gif

Posted by: princesshapnick Jan 16 2009, 10:00 PM

Has anyone noticed how Billy Wilder plays an extra in this film? At least I think it's him. It was in the scene where we first see Marilyn and she's walking along the platform. There's a guy walking behind her and he eventually boards the train through a door just behind Jack and Tony. Of course, we are constantly looking at this beautiful woman that is Sugar Kane that we wouldn't have noticed him, so I wonder if it was him? A clever thing if he did! Check it out and tell me what you think.

There was a discussion on IMDb about this. I was wondering if anybody here noticed it. coolio.gif

Posted by: audreyfan1 Jan 16 2009, 10:42 PM

QUOTE(princesshapnick @ Jan 16 2009, 01:00 PM) *
Has anyone noticed how Billy Wilder plays an extra in this film? At least I think it's him. It was in the scene where we first see Marilyn and she's walking along the platform. There's a guy walking behind her and he eventually boards the train through a door just behind Jack and Tony.


I've never noticed that before! Next time I watch the movie, I'll definitely watch for it. Thanks!

Posted by: MarilynKissesxoxo Feb 7 2009, 03:39 AM

QUOTE(Elsie Marina @ Jun 17 2008, 11:41 AM) *
This was the first Marilyn film I ever saw as well! laugh.gif

This is rightfully one of the greatest comedies of all time IMO, so many funny lines, also when I try to convert people to become Marilyn fans, this si the film I use! laugh.gif


i agree, my friend watched the film and now she loves Marilyn even more, i didn't even ask her to she chose Some like it hot, which makes me happy smile1.gif

Posted by: madmouth Mar 16 2009, 03:37 AM

A brilliant film that reminds me every time of what Hollywood's lost--not least of which is a woman who can wear a dress like that (there hasn't been one since).

Posted by: NormaJeanLove. Sep 25 2009, 11:55 PM

Hands down this probably has to be my fave marilyn movie. so classically funny, just all around good fun, and everyone loves it. But i can tell the difference between wilder's films, we were actually studying him in film class this week. this is probably one of my faves by him.

Posted by: princesshapnick Sep 29 2009, 11:51 PM

I've often wondered what the boys' full names were in the film - and thanks to the 50th Companion book, I now know.

Jerry Bigelow and Joe Marlow!

Interesting names indeed! Bit of movie trivia for you all there. coolio.gif

Oh, and there's also screencaps of a deleted scene (not the one from the train), one where the boys are in the hospital, giving Jerry a blood transfusion which was supposed to happen at the start of the movie. thumbup1.gif

Posted by: Scottish Sugar Sep 30 2009, 04:46 PM

That's awesome about the second names, I find it fascintaing that we're still finiding out new things about a movie released 50 years ago! smile1.gif

I have both the new SLIH books, but just back from holiday so haven't had a chance to even look at them yet, will do that now maybe... I'd quite like to read Tony's book first actually, no matter what people think of him or say about him, he WAS a major part of that movie so I can't wait to hear his side of the story (but of course I'll be reading it with a pinch of salt)

xxx

Posted by: princesshapnick Sep 30 2009, 07:33 PM

I love knowing their full names now! biggrin.gif

Yes, I have both the new books as well. I'm so happy to finally get a book about SLIH that I can look back through every so often and cheer me up if need be. I'd have been so happy with one, let alone two! But I love to be able to add to my Marilyn/Jack collection. coolio.gif

I started on Tony's book first as that was the first to arrive. A lot of stuff, I find myself tutting or saying: "Seriously, Tony?". Some of the "events" or words that he claims came out of Marilyn's mouth seem totally unbelieveable to me. I think he bizarrely has something against her, despite his claims of an affair/baby/whatever.

And the trouble is, I really like Tony as an actor, especially in SLIH and The Great Race with Jack Lemmon. And he seemed so close to Jack as well.

Posted by: Scottish Sugar Oct 4 2009, 01:35 PM

I wouldn't say I'm a Tony Curtis fan, I'm a Tony Curtis in SLIH fan. My love and appreciation for him is purely based on his involvement in that film. I've decided when I start reading the book, I'm going to treat it like a work of fiction, because I'm sure a lot of the truth is stretched.
Have you read his autobiography? he comes across as a really sad, old man now, he's so bitter that his career never went the way he thought it should and he hates the fact that he's not considered a "legend" among the other greats such as Gable and Astaire.
It was a fantastic read though, I finished it in a couple of days and I never read books that often.
xx

Posted by: Tara Oct 4 2009, 05:06 PM

I watched SLIH again yesterday, I've probably seen it more often than any other film. Enjoyed it as much as ever, I think Sugar is the most adorable character Marilyn ever played. So many great performances in fact. I find it a little hard to watch Tony nowadays because of the way he talks about Marilyn, but he is great in it as well. I like a few of his films - especially The Defiant Ones - so it's a shame he's grown bitter. I think he's jealous of Marilyn's fame. I think he is likely very similar to the characters he played, vain and selfish. But then again, nobody's perfect I guess. I'll probably buy the 50th Companion sometime but maybe not Tony's book, though I would probably borrow it from the library.

Posted by: princesshapnick Oct 4 2009, 06:20 PM

^I'm going to watch it tonight as I'm having a Jack Lemmon movie marathon tonight as I have the day off work tomorrow. Good times! thumbup1.gif

The 50th Companion book is very much worth buying, much more than Tony's. I suspect it's like a mini version of the Taschen book. I was showing it to my stepmum as she likes the film too and she wanted to see some color photos of the guys in drag. And she said it was a beautiful-looking book and I agree. It's currently standing up against the wall on my shelf in my bedroom!

I've just finished Tony's book, actually. In some cases, he has repeated himself from his many TV interviews (the 'nice-looking ass' incident with Marilyn and how he didn't mean to say 'kissing Hitler' in a bad way) but I suggest you take a read of it anyway. There are a couple of things in there that he talked about that I'm not entirely sure happened, such as a fight with Arthur Miller on the SLIH set. unsure.gif

Posted by: tom Nov 30 2009, 07:31 PM

I admit i love this film now. I must of been in a wierd mood when I first watched it.

Posted by: NormaJeanLove. Dec 1 2009, 05:47 AM

i was excited about tcm showed it on tv the other day! i love watching it as much as i can, its one of my fave marilyn films!

Posted by: Juliet17101 Dec 4 2009, 12:26 PM

QUOTE(NormaJeanLove. @ Dec 1 2009, 04:47 AM) *
i was excited about tcm showed it on tv the other day! i love watching it as much as i can, its one of my fave marilyn films!


I just found out today it's going to be on UK TV on Christmas Day. Christmas just isn't Christmas without watching Some Like It Hot in the afternoon after the Christmas dinner. Can't wait!

Posted by: Scottish Sugar Dec 5 2009, 08:07 PM

QUOTE(Juliet17101 @ Dec 4 2009, 01:26 PM) *
I just found out today it's going to be on UK TV on Christmas Day. Christmas just isn't Christmas without watching Some Like It Hot in the afternoon after the Christmas dinner. Can't wait!


Excellent! what channel is it on? and time? I always look out for SLIH on Christmas Day, last year it was on Sky Movies (a channel I don't have) so I watched my DVD version of it instead. I always, ALWAYS watch SLIH on Christmas Day, it's just as much a part of my Christmas tradition as pulling a Christmas Cracker, or opening presents under the tree!
xxx

Posted by: princesshapnick Jan 1 2010, 01:26 PM

I watched SLIH on Christmas Day and I finally figured out a joke I never really understood as a kid! The bit where Jerry and Joe first meet Sugar in the bathroom, and Sugar tells them that her father was a conductor. They assume she means a music conductor so when they ask where he conducted, she says: "On the Baltimore, Ohio!", that means he was a train conductor, right?! That's why they looked confused!

I love their expression when she says it so innocently! laugh.gif

Posted by: Scottish Sugar Jan 1 2010, 03:39 PM

QUOTE(princesshapnick @ Jan 1 2010, 02:26 PM) *
I watched SLIH on Christmas Day and I finally figured out a joke I never really understood as a kid! The bit where Jerry and Joe first meet Sugar in the bathroom, and Sugar tells them that her father was a conductor. They assume she means a music conductor so when they ask where he conducted, she says: "On the Baltimore, Ohio!", that means he was a train conductor, right?! That's why they looked confused!

I love their expression when she says it so innocently! laugh.gif


LOL and I thought I was slow at getting jokes! Though to be fair, it wasn't until after watching it a few times did I figure that joke out as well, so you're not the only one.
I think that's the beauty about SLIH, because it's so fast paced with jokes coming at you all over the place, it really is one of these films that needs to be watched over and over again because there's always a joke that you've missed the first time round. For instance, even though I've seen SLIH more times than I care to remember, for some reason, I only recently got the "Water polo? isn't that terribly dangerous?" "I'll say, I had two ponies drown under me!" joke, it always must have slipped by me before! lol.

But I think you're the only person in the world besides me that I don't need to tell to watch SLIH over and over again lol marilynbybrandon_190.gif

Posted by: tom Jan 1 2010, 03:51 PM

I seen that it was on tv too. I didn't watch it though. I'm getting into Hung atm lol. x

Posted by: Scottish Sugar Jan 1 2010, 04:15 PM

QUOTE(tom @ Jan 1 2010, 04:51 PM) *
I seen that it was on tv too. I didn't watch it though. I'm getting into Hung atm lol. x


I am ashamed to say I watched it on tv today a mere 7 days after watching it on Christmas day! lol To be fair though I didn't watch all of it, about 3/4 of it.
Don't think I've heard of "Hung" ??

xx

Posted by: princesshapnick Jan 1 2010, 08:59 PM

QUOTE(Scottish Sugar @ Jan 1 2010, 04:39 PM) *
LOL and I thought I was slow at getting jokes! Though to be fair, it wasn't until after watching it a few times did I figure that joke out as well, so you're not the only one.
I think that's the beauty about SLIH, because it's so fast paced with jokes coming at you all over the place, it really is one of these films that needs to be watched over and over again because there's always a joke that you've missed the first time round. For instance, even though I've seen SLIH more times than I care to remember, for some reason, I only recently got the "Water polo? isn't that terribly dangerous?" "I'll say, I had two ponies drown under me!" joke, it always must have slipped by me before! lol.


Haha! Bless ya! Of course, there are a lot of rude jokes which I wouldn't have understood as a kid but I do now. For instance, the scene where Marilyn is speaking with Jack on the train in his berth. He says: "I can think of a million things" and she suddenly leaps into his bed next to him. And then he says: "That's one of them!" - obviously indicating to sleep with her! laugh.gif

I caught a little bit of the film today as well. We were taking the Christmas decorations down and it was nice to have it on in the background!

QUOTE
But I think you're the only person in the world besides me that I don't need to tell to watch SLIH over and over again lol marilynbybrandon_190.gif


True! wavetowel2.gif

Posted by: tom Jan 2 2010, 08:15 AM

Yeha, Hung is an American program that has or is comign here soon, It is about Ray a jistory/coach teacher/ male prostitute lol. His pimp is funny lmao. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Menna-90 Apr 30 2010, 03:23 PM

This is one of my favorite movies!! jumpymm.gif


Posted by: MissCaswell Apr 30 2010, 10:46 PM

I just visited the hotel del coronado in san diego, where all the exterior (and, I think, some of the interior) hotel scenes were shot for this movie. So great to know that I was standing on the exact same spot were Marilyn stood in the fall/late summer of 1958! It's also a very beautiful place in its own right. I highly recommend going there if you happen to find yourselves in southern california.

Posted by: princesshapnick May 16 2010, 11:11 PM

I have just been editing my SLIH site (I try to do it whenever I can) and whilst updating the 'Film errors' page, I didn't realise that one of the mistakes I had mentioned on that page was one that could be part of a deleted scene - I know there was a missing scene on the train, where Jerry confesses his love for Sugar to Joe - but this one sounds entirely different. This is the passage:

Also, there is a scene where Monroe is sitting on the beach, facing the ocean. She says that the time is 4:00 pm. However, her shadow is clearly being cast behind her. On Miami beaches, this is not possible. Since all of Miami's beaches face east, one's shadow is only cast away from the ocean before noon. On Miami beaches at 4pm, your shadow would lie on the ground in front of you, towards the ocean.

Now, that was taken from IMDB on their 'Goofs' part on the SLIH page. Sorry, but I'm always fascinated by deleted scenes! I know there are photos of Marilyn sitting on a bench behind the scenes, but now I am lead to believe that maybe they are from this scene mentioned above. Maybe, the scene occurred after her night on the yacht, just before Junior took her back to her hotel. Ooh, it's so exciting!!

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Mind you, I remember seeing an interview Jack Lemmon gave, and he said the only scene that was deleted was the one on the train. huh.gif

I can't believe I have never noticed this before, and the amount of times I have edited my site! Jeeez!

Posted by: bruno May 27 2010, 10:32 PM

Personnaly, a mixed review...

This movie is certainly a great one, and probably one of Marilyn's best.
I especially enjoy the first part, notably in the train, where I believe Marilyn hardly ever looked as beautiful and charming.

But I must admit I do not like so much the second part.
Notably all these scenes with Marilyn in her terrible white dress (from her rendition of 'I wanna be loved by you' to the scenes in the yacht). Why on earth such a bad taste in the way she looks ?

Plus she is once again a -really very - dumb blonde.
I have the strange feeling she looks a bit tired, nervous and 'electrical' , she obviously overacts her character, like if she wanted to show her disagreement. That always bothers me a little when I watch the movie.

Apparently I am not the only one : I read somewhere she did not like herself in that part of the movie (she severely considered herself fat and ridiculous).

But in the end, she is very moving in her rendition of 'I'm through with love'.
And her temporarily lost beauty is finally back again (sigh of relief !!).

...And I must admit do not consider Curtis as a very good actor (his performance is excessive too, and not so convincing).

So overall a good movie, daring for the time, but I believe some scenes should really have been removed !

I must appear a bit provocative, I am sorry : I hope I am not schocking the true fans of the movie !!

Posted by: iheartMarilyn4ever Jul 12 2010, 06:59 AM

First movie I ever saw of Marilyn. My friend introduced me to the film and Marilyn. It's just honestly think its great comedy as well not just because of Marilyn, I would recomend it to anyone if they like older comedies. But marilyn does make the film as always its one of my favoriate movies she's been in. smile1.gif Always will have a special place in my heart.

My favoriate part is when they first bring Marilyn in and Daphne turns to Joesaphine and admires the way Marilyn walks and he says "I'm telling you it's like a whole diffrent sex!" lol I for some reason always burst out laughing.

Posted by: Scottish Sugar Jul 12 2010, 08:39 PM

QUOTE(iheartMarilyn4ever @ Jul 12 2010, 06:59 AM) *
First movie I ever saw of Marilyn. My friend introduced me to the film and Marilyn. It's just honestly think its great comedy as well not just because of Marilyn, I would recomend it to anyone if they like older comedies. But marilyn does make the film as always its one of my favoriate movies she's been in. smile1.gif Always will have a special place in my heart.

My favoriate part is when they first bring Marilyn in and Daphne turns to Joesaphine and admires the way Marilyn walks and he says "I'm telling you it's like a whole diffrent sex!" lol I for some reason always burst out laughing.



I agree with every word you've just said apart from the line "Marilyn does make the film." To me, Marilyn is only a tiny, small part of why 'Some Like It Hot' is so great. It almost annoys me that she gets so much credit for it when clearly, Jack and Tony are every bit as important to the movie's magic just as much as she is.... (but yes, Marilyn IS fantastic in this film! lol)

I'm the same as you though, I know for fact that very few of my friends would tolerate a Marilyn movie, but 'SLIH' is a film you can recommend to ANYONE, because it's just THAT good and the fact that were still talking about it on this forum, 51 years after its release, is a testiment to how awesome it is jumpymm.gif

xxx

Posted by: iheartMarilyn4ever Jul 14 2010, 05:08 PM

I'm sorry what I ment by saying Marilyn "makes the Film" is that the film probebly wouldn't be the same without her. smile1.gif Because she did have a little role compared to Tony Curtis and Jack Lemmon. But alot of her other roles have been smaller.

Posted by: Scottish Sugar Jul 14 2010, 05:13 PM

QUOTE(iheartMarilyn4ever @ Jul 14 2010, 05:08 PM) *
I'm sorry what I ment by saying Marilyn "makes the Film" is that the film probebly wouldn't be the same without her. smile1.gif Because she did have a little role compared to Tony Curtis and Jack Lemmon. But alot of her other roles have been smaller.


No problem! marilynbybrandon_190.gif sometimes it's hard to put across what you mean on message board, if it's just written down.

I'm not sure what you do and don't know about SLIH *so slap me if you think I'm being patronising lol* but Marilyn's part was so small because the role of Sugar Kane was only ever meant to be a background character. It was basically meant to be Jack and Tony's film. But as soon as Billy Wilder got Marilyn on board, he knew he had to make Sugar's role a lot bigger, after all, Marilyn was definitely the biggest box office draw out the 3 of them. But you're right, it is such a small role compared to her other starring roles and considering how big a star Marilyn was at the time.


xxx

Posted by: princesshapnick Jul 14 2010, 07:45 PM

Even though her part was technically not as big as Jack and Tony's characters were to the story, it's very often mistaken as "Marilyn's vehicle" because perhaps a reason could be is that she was given top billing. I remember my auntie re-watching this film a few months ago - she had seen it before but it had been a few years - and was more than surprised to see Marilyn's name come up first. Although, that's the magic of Marilyn, she really brought out Sugar and made her shine, despite Jack and Tony's characters having the main story. It's them we're following and seeing what happens to them through thick and thin.


Posted by: iheartMarilyn4ever Aug 6 2010, 07:01 AM

I watched it again today with my mom in honor of her anniversary.

Posted by: Maneki Neko Aug 24 2010, 09:38 PM

I think this movie is perfect in every way and I absolutely love it! Jack Lemmon is the funniest in my opinion, but Marilyn is also wonderful like always. Although I am no fan of Tony Curtis as a person he does a very good job as well. And that last line is the funniest last line of any movie that I have seen. The songs are also among my favorite Marilyn songs.


Posted by: sugarkane20 Feb 10 2011, 03:14 AM

How did you guys feel about Sugar going off with Joe at the end? Did you feel she made the right decision?

Posted by: princesshapnick Feb 11 2011, 03:36 PM

I think it's a perfect ending for Sugar. To be able to quit the band she wasn't entirely happy with being in (as she says early on in the film; she's only with them to run away) to be with this man she had grown to like whoever he was, I think it was the perfect decision. Despite Junior not being who she thought he was, I guess Sugar felt she had known the real him a lot longer than she already did. Although we know how Joe treated ladies (Nellie for instance) as he is just like every other womanising saxophone player, I think he would have changed his ways as Sugar is probably the ideal woman for him - much to the jealousy of Jerry!

Actually, it would have been interesting to have seen what Sugar's reaction was to Daphne also being a man as well. I guess she would have known eventually at the end. But for me, I think it's wonderful to imagine, as 'The End' comes up on screen, that she is able to start afresh and run away from it all in a speedboat with both Joe and Jerry in her life (and most probably Osgood as well! From the looks of things lol - pure Jerry as he clearly wasn't gay). I think it's so sweet.

Also, it would have been great for Jerry if after he revealed he was also a man to Sugar, because Joe had obviously 'won' her, if she could give him a little kiss. I'm sure, after all that flirting he did with the unaware Sugar, that it would more than make up to the fact that Joe got the girl in the end lol.

I remember reading that George Raft said that apparently Marilyn said they should end the film with Sugar running off with Spats if he had lived; however that wouldn't have made any sense whatsoever. I mean, if the writers liked the idea, I'm sure they would have 'tweaked' the film here and there (which it obviously didn't need anyway) but for me, the best ending ever was chosen. I completely love how it ended.

Posted by: Scottish Sugar Feb 11 2011, 06:36 PM

I think the ending is perfect *pardon the pun* as it is. Hollywood loves a happy ending and it seemed fitting that Sugar and Joe would eventually end up together. Although Joe is used to treating women like dirt, you can tell that Sugar really meant a lot to him, not only by saying goodbye properly over the phone, but giving away that expensive bracelet, which would easily have led them to a small fortune had they sold it... a small fortune that surely would have been life changing for 2 down-on-their-luck musicians. So for him to give it away, symbolised a lot.
I definitely think Sugar made the right decision.


To be honest, I don't like to over analyze it too much, I just take it for what it is, the perfect comedy, with the perfect ending smile1.gif

Posted by: sugarkane20 May 1 2011, 11:51 AM

Did anyone order SLIH Blu Ray?

Posted by: princesshapnick May 2 2011, 05:24 PM

No, surprisingly enough, I haven't yet! Is there any real difference to owning it as opposed to a normal DVD? I'm assuming I'll need a Blu-ray DVD player to play it. If it's worth it, I'll buy it all, naturally. coolio.gif

Posted by: Scottish Sugar May 2 2011, 06:57 PM

You need a Blu Ray player in order to play Blu Ray's (or I'm sure the X Box can play Blu Rays too??.. I don't know, I'm probably the only person in the world that doesn't own an x-box)

Now, I remember being warned about Blu Ray's, you really have to be careful about what company is releasing the Blu Ray, because not all Blu Ray producers make great quality pictures. For example, I've heard that the Blu Ray transfer of "All About Eve" isn't up to much. Or if there's 2 or 3 Blu Ray releases of a new movie, you have to be careful which one you choose.

At the end of the day, 'SLIH' was made 5 DECADES ago, so there's only so much a Blu Ray can do to "improve" the picture quality. A Blu Ray of a film from the 1950's is never going to look half as good as a Blu Ray from 2011.
But I don't know about you guys, but my DVD copy is crystal clear as it is... and although I'm intrigued as to see what SLIH looks like in Blu Ray, I'm not overly fussed as my DVD quality is perfect anyway smile1.gif

xx

Posted by: princesshapnick May 3 2011, 12:13 AM

QUOTE(Scottish Sugar @ May 2 2011, 06:57 PM) *
You need a Blu Ray player in order to play Blu Ray's (or I'm sure the X Box can play Blu Rays too??.. I don't know, I'm probably the only person in the world that doesn't own an x-box)

Now, I remember being warned about Blu Ray's, you really have to be careful about what company is releasing the Blu Ray, because not all Blu Ray producers make great quality pictures. For example, I've heard that the Blu Ray transfer of "All About Eve" isn't up to much. Or if there's 2 or 3 Blu Ray releases of a new movie, you have to be careful which one you choose.

At the end of the day, 'SLIH' was made 5 DECADES ago, so there's only so much a Blu Ray can do to "improve" the picture quality. A Blu Ray of a film from the 1950's is never going to look half as good as a Blu Ray from 2011.
But I don't know about you guys, but my DVD copy is crystal clear as it is... and although I'm intrigued as to see what SLIH looks like in Blu Ray, I'm not overly fussed as my DVD quality is perfect anyway smile1.gif

xx


I agree. I have 3 different DVDs of the film because I like having the different covers and the special features etc and the quality of all is crystal clear too! I have no complaints either personally so I was thinking if it was really worth buying it on Blu-ray, if there was a real difference. Now, if the Blu-ray had any new special features on it, I'll be straight down the shop "before you can say Jack Robinson" (figure of speech) lol. mf_w00t1.gif

Posted by: lorileime May 22 2011, 01:33 AM

I hope this works. Try this link http://www.amazon.com/Ernestine-Anderson/dp/B0000046MK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1306025456&sr=8-1 and see if you can listen to the first clip. I wonder if the version that Marilyn recorded was longer. I would love to hear her sing the whole song. And further down Miss Anderson also did a version of Heat Wave.

Posted by: CYRILPARIS Oct 24 2011, 08:50 AM

new for me

 

Posted by: princesshapnick Oct 24 2011, 08:27 PM

Thank you!!!!!!!!!! clapping.gif clapping.gif clapping.gif clapping.gif clapping.gif

Posted by: Nettie Oct 25 2011, 04:12 AM

QUOTE(CYRILPARIS @ Oct 24 2011, 07:50 AM) *
new for me



clapping.gif clapping.gif What a beautiful picture. Look at all her eye makeup. Stunning, thank you. clapping.gif

Posted by: CYRILPARIS Nov 5 2011, 05:34 PM

from Marilyn Monroe Metamorphosis by David Wills and Stephen Schmidt


 

Posted by: princesshapnick Nov 5 2011, 11:58 PM

I love it. Never seen it in that quality before. Thank you!!! thumbup1.gif

Posted by: CYRILPARIS Nov 10 2011, 09:58 PM

from Julien's auction catalog 2011 Icons and Idols Hollywood Catalog December 1st&2nd, 2011




 

Posted by: Scottish Sugar Nov 12 2011, 08:55 PM

QUOTE(CYRILPARIS @ Nov 10 2011, 10:58 PM) *
from Julien's auction catalog 2011 Icons and Idols Hollywood Catalog December 1st&2nd, 2011



What I wouldn't give to own that DVD of behind the scenes footage..
My friends recently won £161million in the lottery... maybe I could ask them for a loan wink3.gif

Posted by: princesshapnick Nov 12 2011, 10:28 PM

Oh wow!

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Posted by: princesshapnick Jan 26 2012, 09:36 PM

So who else will buy the Blu-ray dvd? I've heard it's in colour. Like others, I'm skeptical about the film being reproduced in colour as B&W suits it perfectly with the 1920s time frame and everything. I'm worried it'll look overdone (I'm thinking along the lines of Jack and Tony's female make-up may have been touched up as being over-the-top by today's film editors) but then at the same time I'm excited as I'm interested in which colours were used where.

Posted by: sugarkane20 Jan 26 2012, 10:21 PM

The blu ray one I bought in May is in black and white. Are they making another one?

Posted by: mare Mar 4 2012, 05:21 AM

QUOTE(Nettie @ Oct 24 2011, 10:12 PM) *
clapping.gif clapping.gif What a beautiful picture. Look at all her eye makeup. Stunning, thank you. clapping.gif



New to me. I agree, her eye makeup is beautiful... stunning is the right word!

SLIH was just on TV tonight on TCM here in the States. I am so happy I caught it and watched it again while eating dinner! SLIH is a pick of Drew Barrymore who is a guest host (yay for Drew for picking it!). Robert Osborne said he went to see it at a first premier and all the talk was about Marilyn being heavier. That's what Marilyn didn't like about her appearance in the film. I agree with everyone above that it was a small role for Marilyn considering how big a star she was at the time and Jack Lemmon and Tony Curtis were the stars. We are talking about it because of the genius of the film, the genius of Billy Wilder and Jack, Tony and of course, Marilyn and the supporting cast: Joe E. Brown, George Raft, Pat O'Brien, Joan Shawlee, etc. But sure, I wish Marilyn had a HUGE PART!! You just can never take your eyes of of her!

This is my top fave, it's just so funny and brilliantly done! marilynbybrandon_190.gif Now it's time to sleepingmm2.gif

Posted by: Bellatrix Jul 22 2012, 04:38 AM

My friend told me that "some like it hot" has been shooting in color
I have B/W version
is it true?
In August will be released in Italy the bluray collection of Marilyn Monroe's Movies...
Do you know anything?

Posted by: zeldazonk1926 Jul 22 2012, 07:26 AM

Marilyn wanted it to be shot in colour but it was shot in b/w because the guys' makeup looked too green/clownish on film. Apparently there are "coloured" versions though (colour after).

Posted by: Bellatrix Jul 22 2012, 03:45 PM

QUOTE(zeldazonk1926 @ Jul 22 2012, 08:26 AM) *
Marilyn wanted it to be shot in colour but it was shot in b/w because the guys' makeup looked too green/clownish on film. Apparently there are "coloured" versions though (colour after).


Where i can find the colour version?

Posted by: princesshapnick Jul 22 2012, 05:48 PM

QUOTE(Bellatrix @ Jul 22 2012, 03:45 PM) *
Where i can find the colour version?


Search me but I'd be interested as well. The film will always suit black and white for the theme and time period of the story but I'm very intrigued to see it in color.

Posted by: zeldazonk1926 Jul 22 2012, 07:05 PM

My mom said she say the coloured version once on TV, I've heard some are available on Amazon but I haven't checked it out yet.

Posted by: Bellatrix Jul 22 2012, 09:04 PM

QUOTE(zeldazonk1926 @ Jul 22 2012, 08:05 PM) *
My mom said she say the coloured version once on TV, I've heard some are available on Amazon but I haven't checked it out yet.


I checked it out on amazon but i didn't find nothing at all...anyway... thanks for the info...
if anyone find it please let me know... blush.gif

Posted by: zeldazonk1926 Jul 23 2012, 08:04 PM

Yea of course!

Posted by: Bellatrix Jul 24 2012, 12:26 AM

QUOTE
Yea of course!


thank you, You are very nice
I really curius to see this movie in color

Posted by: Diamond Dec 25 2012, 12:28 PM


Very Nice Movie, I spend such a good time watching it !
Lemmon & Curtis was hilarious & Marilyn as always, touching !
It's strange but when Marilyn appears on screen it's like nothing else matters around me smile1.gif


Posted by: princesshapnick Feb 17 2013, 03:09 AM

I still feel like I'm actually in the film when I'm watching it. What I mean by that is I forget about real life and even forget the room in because I always get so into this film. Yes I'm a strange girl. blush-anim-cl.gif

Posted by: Mezzo Sep 25 2013, 09:01 PM

Here's a link to information on a book celebrating the Hotel del Coronado: http://www.hoteldel.com/PressReleaseTemplate.aspx?id=10954

Posted by: marilyn144 Oct 16 2013, 09:39 PM

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Posted by: njsp1921 Oct 18 2013, 06:25 PM

great mailen. some rare all beautiful

Posted by: meganmarilyn Apr 20 2014, 12:20 AM

Article from TALENT magazine May, 1959. On MM's 1st working day in Hollywood in 4 years, a recording session for the song "Runnin' Wild". Pretty interesting insight on MM behind the scenes.

 

Posted by: Celia Apr 21 2014, 05:18 PM

QUOTE(meganmarilyn @ Apr 20 2014, 01:20 AM) *
Article from TALENT magazine May, 1959. On MM's 1st working day in Hollywood in 4 years, a recording session for the song "Runnin' Wild". Pretty interesting insight on MM behind the scenes.

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The only think is, Arthur Miller their saying "hi" and she introducing him as his husband when the whole world knew about it? Plus, Marilyn smoking .She smoked occasionally as far as we know, but I find it weird that she did smoke at this precise moment. Singers know it is awful for the voice, one notices the efect on the voice instantly.
The article is very interesting indeed. But I wonder if it wasn´t made up. Maybe it wasn´t anyway. Just my thoughts.

Posted by: Tara Apr 22 2014, 04:31 PM

Sometimes introducing a person is just a way of saying, he's my friend and he's one of us. Whereas if Marilyn hadn't introduced Arthur, people might have felt wary of approaching him. He was quite a reserved man and Marilyn's introduction probably helped to break the ice.

Another thing that struck me from Megan's article is how at ease Marilyn seemed in the recording studio, compared to on the set. Far more confident, and not so tense. She seemed to get along better with musicians than directors!

Posted by: lorileime Apr 23 2014, 03:23 AM

Speaking of Runnin Wild, the original song is much long than what Marilyn is heard singing in the movie and I have a feeling that she recorded the whole song and they cut it down to the first couple of stanzas and last stanza. There might be a lot more of it out there, I hope.

Posted by: collector Jun 2 2014, 08:48 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joD3QafceFA

Posted by: KingAl May 20 2015, 03:22 PM

Although it's Marilyn's most famous movie and a great comedy, I still prefer Seven Year Itch over Some Like It Hot. The first reason is may be because I like more these kinds of urban comedies as Seven Years Itch and a second reason I watched Some Like it Hot so many times that I simply got sick of course not of Marilyn.

Posted by: audreyfan1 May 21 2015, 01:15 AM

Same here, KingAl. I think The Seven Year Itch is way funnier than Some Like It Hot. It seems like it may be a generational thing. Most younger people (in their 20's and younger) who I know who've seen both films seem to like SYI over SLIH. I think it may have something to do with society's more accepting attitude towards trans people. I mean, most of the comedy in SLIH centers around "look at Joe and Jerry demeaning themselves by dressing in women's clothes and acting feminine! Isn't that just hold your sides hilarious?! Jack Lemmon's having trouble with his bra!!! Ha ha ha! Tony Curtis in high heels! Isn't that hilarious!!! Ha ha ha ha!" Today, kids look at that and go "so two guys are acting feminine and wearing dresses. I don't get it. What's the big deal?" Cross-dressing isn't something that many people find funny anymore...it's just normal.

Posted by: bruno Jun 7 2015, 02:13 PM

Personally, I much prefer Some like it Hot :
I think the Seven year Itch is way too long, and just 'quite funny', with a bit easy and heavy jokes,
whereas Some Like it Hot is sometimes really hilarious, and much more risky, especially at the time it was released.
Plus Monroe look at the beginning of SLH is just astonishing (though I don't like her so much in the yacht scenes...).

 

Posted by: KingAl Jun 7 2015, 04:05 PM

QUOTE(bruno @ Jun 7 2015, 02:13 PM) *
Personally, I much prefer Some like it Hot :
I think the Seven year Itch is way too long, and just 'quite funny', with a bit easy and heavy jokes,
whereas Some Like it Hot is sometimes really hilarious, and much more risky, especially at the time it was released.
Plus Monroe look at the beginning of SLH is just astonishing (though I don't like her so much in the yacht scenes...).

She does look gorgeous at the beginning and her singing is nice, although she was a bit overweight but we must take into account that she was pregnant during filming. The other thing is that SYI could have been much greater comedy than it was if they didn't censored the original Broadway script.

Posted by: marilyn144 Mar 13 2016, 10:33 PM

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Posted by: Alanma Aug 23 2017, 09:58 PM

I just caught an item on the BBC TV News today, to the effect that "Some Like It Hot" has once again been voted "the best comedy film ever!"

Posted by: Kelstad Sep 7 2017, 07:21 AM

QUOTE(Alanma @ Aug 23 2017, 09:58 PM) *
I just caught an item on the BBC TV News today, to the effect that "Some Like It Hot" has once again been voted "the best comedy film ever!"

thumbup1.gif Such a Great Movie!!

Posted by: princesshapnick Sep 20 2017, 10:50 PM

For me, Some Like It Hot is timeless and I feel when I'm watching it like I'm there, like I feel like I have transported back to the 1920s and away from today's reality. I forget about reality because I'm enjoying it so much. That is an amazing thing I think for a film to be able to do. Not many can for me. And I still find it so hilarious, I can feel myself smiling the whole time that Marilyn, Jack and Tony are on screen and the gangster scenes are so brilliantly acted too. Everything about the film was perfect in every way. I would love to one day see it on the big screen as some local cinemas show the classics. And I am so glad it is still being voted the best comedy ever! throb.gif

Posted by: Stacy Jan 28 2019, 07:51 AM

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