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post Oct 12 2015, 11:50 PM
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Also posted in the Miscellaneous pictures / The Nudes, Any/All nude photos! - thread

Faded but good resolution
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post Feb 22 2016, 05:45 AM
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(IMG:http://d2eae8pjw8pj4b.cloudfront.net/boards/style_emoticons/default/marilynbybrandon_190.gif) Personally, I only like very few of the Stern pix. MM looks unhealthy and sad in the majority of them.
It would've been better if the ones with the different color scarfs were more modest.
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(IMG:http://d2eae8pjw8pj4b.cloudfront.net/boards/style_emoticons/default/marilynbybrandon_190.gif) Personally, I only like very few of the Stern pix. MM looks unhealthy and sad in the majority of them.
It would've been better if the ones with the different color scarfs were more modest.



I agree - in fact I would say I don't particularly like any of Stern's images of Marilyn. My own personal favourites are the photos by Sam Shaw and Milton Greene, Cecil Beaton and Jack Cardiff. Stern's work is too stark and at times too vulgar.
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post Feb 22 2016, 10:51 AM
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(IMG:http://d2eae8pjw8pj4b.cloudfront.net/boards/style_emoticons/default/marilynbybrandon_190.gif) I put MHG on same level as BS...some MHG I detest.
If I said things the way I'm thinking them, their heirs might sue me.

As for the Stern ones, the scarfs are too flimsy and the clothes overpowered MM's fragile frame.
I find the lighting for most of the black and whites uncomplimentary.
The make up looks as though done with an unsteady hand. Hair looks un-natural.
The fake jewelry is a totally bad idea.
I cannot find words to express how ugly the black wig and the bigger/blacker mole ideas are.
This guy I think took every opportunity to make MM look bad. He even made her corpse-like in some photos.

The least that could've been done is to get some new clothes, accessories and good jewelry.
I think MM would've looked cute in a newer style hairdo and some of the mod UK fashions of the 60s.
Wonder what William Travilla and MM's other trusted stylists were doing during the Stern photoshoot(s).

As for MM, I respect her right to choose but don't agree with her choices.
She didn't have to go the route of psychiatry and drugs (I count both smoking and alcohol as drugs)
I do understand her physical/emotional pain and how difficult it is to deal with it and do one's work with all that.
I believe she had way too much negative imput and too many "yes-men" in her life.

I haven't seen all the photographers here yet, so I haven't picked a favorite.
So far, DeDienes and Shaw have some great ones.
I like the pre-hollywood-ized portraits and photos.
There are many pictures new to me and others I lost during a transfer to new external hd.

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post Feb 22 2016, 01:52 PM
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When I look at some of these images near the end of her life she doesn't look well at all - as well as the drugs and booze poor Mazza had many physical complaints too - she had her gal bladder removed and more ops to do with her endometriosis, some say she had had yet another abortion and in something I was reading there was a suggestion she also suffered with episodes of painful colitis. No wonder she looked so gaunt at times. However, in the last Barris photos she had a more natural look: less make-up and her Mexican jumper for instance - if she'd had her hair in a more natural colour and let it grow she would have been much better. I take your point about the Mod look in the UK - but I think Mary Quant was more in the mid 60s.

All this reminds me - I was reading Weatherby's book recently on his meetings with M in 1961, 62 I think - 'hippies' are mentioned and a boy with long hair because the police moved him on - I hadn't realized they were around so early! Also in some screen tests I think for the Misfits Marilyn is wearing flared jeans. I've seen photos of relatives in England who were Beatniks in the late 50s and early 60s before the Beatles era and their hair was longish but no-one called them hippies. I suppose we think we know the past but sometimes we don't.


ps re Milton Greene - I do not like the Black sitting/s - I think Marilyn was worth more than the way she was portrayed - I think they are vulgar.
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post Feb 22 2016, 11:20 PM
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I think she was wearing the flared jeans in Something's Got to Give maybe, yes ? She kinda looked like a hobo to me in them. (IMG:http://d2eae8pjw8pj4b.cloudfront.net/boards/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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I think she was wearing the flared jeans in Something's Got to Give maybe, yes ? She kinda looked like a hobo to me in them. (IMG:http://d2eae8pjw8pj4b.cloudfront.net/boards/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)



I've see her look better (IMG:http://d2eae8pjw8pj4b.cloudfront.net/boards/style_emoticons/default/wink3.gif)
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post Feb 23 2016, 11:15 AM
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(IMG:http://d2eae8pjw8pj4b.cloudfront.net/boards/style_emoticons/default/marilynbybrandon_190.gif) I finally finished this thread moments ago.
Yes, mini skirt etc. was 65-66 - had MM been taken care of better, she probably would've been around.

I have read about many health problems as well: endometriosis, painful menstrual cycle, colitis.
Because of these issues, as well as her surgeries, I doubt much about the alleged promiscuity and abortions.
None of us was there and much we do not know about MM. Some people will say and do anything to sell their books etc.

There is a pic by Bert Stern I am looking for, I have to check if it's here. It's one of the Nikon Camera ones.
She's looking sideways and is holding the camera near her face. I think there's only a small one posted.
I will also check my files to see if I have a larger one. It would be nice to have it colorized.
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post Feb 24 2016, 04:48 AM
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She's looking sideways and is holding the camera near her face. I think there's only a small one posted.
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QUOTE(Joan Newman @ Feb 24 2016, 05:48 AM) *
She's looking sideways and is holding the camera near her face. I think there's only a small one posted.




That one is ok - she looks as young as she actually was - although I'm not too sure about the hair style (IMG:http://d2eae8pjw8pj4b.cloudfront.net/boards/style_emoticons/default/flirt.gif)
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post Feb 24 2016, 08:47 PM
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(IMG:http://d2eae8pjw8pj4b.cloudfront.net/boards/style_emoticons/default/marilynbybrandon_190.gif) Thanks Joan, that's the one. I couldn't find it. I wish it was large, high resolution and in color.
I'm not crazy about the hairstyle either.

regarding the clothes - the pretty solid color tops and white slacks in the Barris pix are awesome to me. They are simple but elegant.
The clothes in the Stern shoot are too much, but the dress in the Nikon camera pix is ok. I once had big colorized ones of these.
Colorizing isn't my talent.

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I think those Stern photos are overrated in generel. They only got so much publicity because Marilyn is semi nude in some of them and because this was the last studio photo session. And I forgot one importend thing: Stern was a good businessman. Donīt know how much money Stern made with those photos from 1962 until he passed away.

In my opinion technically most of the photos are not very good, too and I donīt understand why most of the color ones, that are on sale in auctions, are faded or have an heavy magenta touch. It seems that Bert Stern had no interest in restoring his pictures. Donīt know what kind of transparency film he had used and if the orig. transparencys have also faded over the years.

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