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> How do you think Marilyn died?, Let's open the debate
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In your opinion, how did Marilyn die?
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mels
post Jul 6 2004, 10:43 PM
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Here we go...

Let's open the debate regarding Marilyn's death. Before entering into details in long theories, let's see what you all think!

I'm voting for "accidental". I still have to study carefully the corrolation between her autopsy and what we know about her medication, but I do think there was an uncompatibily between several of her treatments or that her body rejected the mix between to medications.
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post Jul 7 2004, 03:21 AM
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Iīm going with accidental too, Mels. I believe it was accidental on her part though and someoneīs negligence helped her untimely death. (IMG:http://www.everlasting-star.net/boards/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

You can see a little topic about this here
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Lorraine
post Jul 7 2004, 09:58 AM
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Mmmmmm,i suppose i am not entirely sure,but it was strange how Marilyn was found in the postion she was found in on the bed stretched out with her hand on the phone,almost like she was placed that way.....but we will never know.God Bless her
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post Jul 7 2004, 10:03 AM
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yeah...i agree with you all....i know this sound horrible, but in a way it`s sort of good that she died...cuz if she was still alive, i don`t think she would have had so many fans.....i mean look at liz taylor...don`t think she has fans like us...but any way...that`s just my opinion
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Val
post Jul 7 2004, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE(MM_Yvonne @ Jul 7 2004, 11:03 AM)
yeah...i agree with you all....i know this sound horrible, but in a way it`s sort of good that she died...cuz if she was still alive, i don`t think she would have had so many fans.....i mean look at liz taylor...don`t think she has fans like us...but any way...that`s just my opinion
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It does sound horrible. I'm pretty sure you didn't phrase this the way you wanted to. I mean who cares about the fans if they're dead
(IMG:http://www.everlasting-star.net/boards/style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) It's a very high price to pay. Go ask Liz Taylor if she rather be alive or be dead but considered as a myth.
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post Jul 7 2004, 03:49 PM
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i don`t mean it like that Val...but i don`t know how TO put it so that you`ll understand....I`m sorry
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post Jul 7 2004, 03:50 PM
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oh man! now i feel like such a terreble person!
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post Jul 7 2004, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(MM_Yvonne @ Jul 7 2004, 04:50 PM)
oh man! now i feel like such a terreble person!
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Don't feel that terrible. I wrote above that I was sure you did not phrase that concept the way you wanted. I figured out you did not really mean it.
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post Jul 7 2004, 04:44 PM
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yeah, exacly<----don`t know how you write that) did not mean it like the way it sounds.
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post Jul 8 2004, 07:36 PM
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I used to think she was murdered but Iīm not sure now,so Iīve voted accidental.
I just doubt that the Kennedys killed her.
I strongly believe there was a cover up, but I think that there was a reason for it: They had to allow time to remove all things liking Marilyn and the kennedys if itīs true that they were having a relationship.
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post Jul 13 2004, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(MM_Yvonne @ Jul 7 2004, 10:03 AM)
yeah...i agree with you all....i know this sound horrible, but in a way it`s sort of good that she died...cuz if she was still alive, i don`t think she would have had so many fans.....i mean look at liz taylor...don`t think she has fans like us...but any way...that`s just my opinion
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I know exactly what you mean. Would her legend have grown if she did not met such a sudden tragic, and untimely death? I think the reason alot of her fans became attracted to her was because of her death, in some sort of weird way. When people die they all of a sudden become legends, even though Marilyn was a living legend. I would have loved to see her live longer to see what she had in store for us, but in a way its better she died young so we will always remember her in her youth and as beautiful. Only the good die young.

As for me, I believe she was murdered. I did a paper on it in school that was 15 pages of pure fact surrounding her affairs with John and Bobby. I believe they were the ones responsible for it, but I wont go into it right now.
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post Jul 13 2004, 07:10 PM
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I agree with you. She wouldnīt have been sooooo famous.
However I think she would have been as famous as Greta Garbo , Clark Gable
or Charles Chaplin. And they are all great legends.
Elisabeth Taylor, whom someone mentioned above, is not that great for me.
I think she was never at Marilynīs level , maybe Iīm wrong, but I also heard that Taylor was a
bit angry because they called her a legend and not a myth like Marilyn. But I think thatīs exactly the difference.
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post Jul 13 2004, 07:23 PM
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I don't know. The first time I saw Marilyn on the screen - and was immediately fascinated - I did not even know she was dead. So that can be true but it is not true for me.
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post Jul 13 2004, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE(Val @ Jul 13 2004, 07:23 PM)
I don't know. The first time I saw Marilyn on the screen - and was immediately fascinated - I did not even know she was dead. So that can be true but it is not true for me.
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I totally agree. I think she had something - what they call flesh impact -that no one (at least to me) never had before nor after. (They said Garbo did, but I never liked her...) I donīt know any other actress who just glows, you know...and you cannot look at anyone else when she is on screen. Her image on screen was magical, mystical, bigger than life.
As for the topic...I also voted accidental. Of course, no one can know for sure. But at the moment it is the most plausible explanation to me. However, I do believe there was cover-up afterwards, otherwise all the discrepancies would be hard to explain. Whether she accidentally overdosed it or it was her doctorīs fault I havenīt made up my mind.
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post Jul 13 2004, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(Meikkuli @ Jul 13 2004, 09:51 PM)
QUOTE(Val @ Jul 13 2004, 07:23 PM)
I don't know. The first time I saw Marilyn on the screen - and was immediately fascinated - I did not even know she was dead. So that can be true but it is not true for me.
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I totally agree. I think she had something - what they call flesh impact -that no one (at least to me) never had before nor after. (They said Garbo did, but I never liked her...) I donīt know any other actress who just glows, you know...and you cannot look at anyone else when she is on screen. Her image on screen was magical, mystical, bigger than life.
As for the topic...I also voted accidental. Of course, no one can know for sure. But at the moment it is the most plausible explanation to me. However, I do believe there was cover-up afterwards, otherwise all the discrepancies would be hard to explain. Whether she accidentally overdosed it or it was her doctorīs fault I havenīt made up my mind.
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I beleive - admitting it was an accident - that it was both her responsibility (she was not stupid and was certainly aware that the large amount of psych drugs she was taking could do no good in the end) and her doctor's too who mishandled her completly.
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post Jul 15 2004, 08:18 PM
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I voted for accidental death. Though it is documented she tried to kill herself on numerous occasions - they were cries for help but no-one heard those cries on this occasion. Also, maybe I like to believe the best of people and not in 'the evil that men do' ie she wasn't murdered by someone though sometimes the truth can be stranger than fiction.
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post Jul 16 2004, 12:03 PM
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i voted wrong medication because i believe in the Spotoīs theory
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post Jul 21 2004, 11:02 AM
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I agree with Jeannette.
I think it was a wrong mixture of medication because he doctors didn't know what the other had given her.
I think it was accidental, and Spoto does a nice job of presenting that opinion.
I also belive that there was a clean-up by her doctors and Mrs. Murray of the
death scene and a cover-up by the Kennedy associates of any items that might
prove embarrassing to the Kennedys.

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Celia
post Jul 22 2004, 07:41 PM
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Hi Stacy!! Hope you are fine!
Do you really think that Mrs Murray actually applied the enema? As Spoto puts it?
I used to believe it but I changed my mind when someone told me that Spoto is someway related to the kennedys and that he was taken to court for what he said about other writers and lost the trial.
Honestly, I donīt know what to think. I wish the case were reopened so that we could finnally know the truth (IMG:http://www.everlasting-star.net/boards/style_emoticons/default/angry.gif)
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post Jul 22 2004, 11:28 PM
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for now i think it's accidental, but you never know...
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