Follow ES on Twitter


Boards rules & guidelines | Help | Search | Members | Calendar


Welcome Guest Log In. This is a private community that no longer accept new registrations.



Search on ES with Google :
3 Pages V   1 2 3 >  
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> Marilyn: The Last Sessions
Share |
Nancy
post Feb 16 2009, 03:41 AM
Post #1
Everlasting Star


Group Icon

Posts: 3 747
From: Montreal
Gender:
Real Name: Nancy

Joined: 11-November 05


I didn't know this was on, but I'm watching the last hour. It's based on John Miner's -in my opinion- imaginary Greenson tapes... so it's no doubt full of nonsense.
Has anyone seen it?

http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/passionate...e/2009/marilyn/

Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Tara
post Feb 16 2009, 08:23 AM
Post #2
Glittering Mist


Group Icon

Posts: 6 651
From: England
Gender:

Joined: 11-August 04


Oh dear, based on Miner? Did anyone see it?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
VanessaLapierre
post Feb 16 2009, 05:11 PM
Post #3
Vanessa Lapierre


Group Icon

Posts: 162
From: Madalen Islands
Gender:
Real Name: Vanessa Lapierre

Joined: 13-February 09


Oh ! I have the channel but it's too late anyways. :(
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
nicky62
post Feb 16 2009, 05:29 PM
Post #4
Everlasting Star


Group Icon

Posts: 1 774
From: Puerto Rico
Gender:
Real Name: Prince Nicolas aka Nicky

Joined: 15-August 02


Hopefully we get to see it on youtube sounds interesting
nicky62
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
MMcamera
post Feb 16 2009, 08:08 PM
Post #5
Marilyn encyclopedia


Group Icon

Posts: 679
From: Canada
Gender:
Real Name: Melinda

Joined: 9-December 04


Crap. Missed it.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Nancy
post Feb 16 2009, 09:58 PM
Post #6
Everlasting Star


Group Icon

Posts: 3 747
From: Montreal
Gender:
Real Name: Nancy

Joined: 11-November 05


Well, I didn't watch the full hour I tuned in on. It basically painted Marilyn as a weak, childish victim. That's been done to death. It was kind of disgusting me, so I had to turn it off.

But.. I'm still upset that I didn't know about this, I would have recorded it. I don't know when it will be aired again, but I will keep my eyes open.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
MarilynKissesxox...
post Feb 16 2009, 11:29 PM
Post #7
Marilyn nut


Group Icon

Posts: 51
From: Ontario,Canada
Gender:
Real Name: Bronte

Joined: 31-January 09


I watched it,the last hour.I tuned in around the filming of the misfits. It was interesting,so depresing though i was about to cry. It upsets me that she was never happy.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Nancy
post Feb 16 2009, 11:37 PM
Post #8
Everlasting Star


Group Icon

Posts: 3 747
From: Montreal
Gender:
Real Name: Nancy

Joined: 11-November 05


QUOTE(MarilynKissesxoxo @ Feb 16 2009, 05:29 PM) *
I watched it,the last hour.I tuned in around the filming of the misfits. It was interesting,so depresing though i was about to cry. It upsets me that she was never happy.


That's the thing, I think they exaggerated her unhappiness. We all know this period of her life was tumultuous and that she was suffering from drug addiction and battling personal demons, but... they make it sound as if she could barely function at all. If that were the case, The Misfits would never have been completed, let alone have provided us with one of Marilyn's finest performances.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
MarilynKissesxox...
post Feb 17 2009, 12:59 AM
Post #9
Marilyn nut


Group Icon

Posts: 51
From: Ontario,Canada
Gender:
Real Name: Bronte

Joined: 31-January 09


QUOTE(jemaniac @ Feb 16 2009, 05:37 PM) *
That's the thing, I think they exaggerated her unhappiness. We all know this period of her life was tumultuous and that she was suffering from drug addiction and battling personal demons, but... they make it sound as if she could barely function at all. If that were the case, The Misfits would never have been completed, let alone have provided us with one of Marilyn's finest performances.



i agree, i sat there and said to my mom, this is so depressing, I just don't think she could of been that unhappy.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
VanessaLapierre
post Feb 18 2009, 02:03 AM
Post #10
Vanessa Lapierre


Group Icon

Posts: 162
From: Madalen Islands
Gender:
Real Name: Vanessa Lapierre

Joined: 13-February 09


I agree, Marilyn wasn't always unhappy. Like when she was around children she was feeling well, you can see her eyes shinning. <3
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Tara
post Feb 18 2009, 09:47 AM
Post #11
Glittering Mist


Group Icon

Posts: 6 651
From: England
Gender:

Joined: 11-August 04


I think sometimes people fail to acknowledge all that Marilyn achieved, despite the very real problems she faced. She was a remarkable woman, and the tragedy of her fate does not diminish that. Marilyn had a gift for finding joy in life and sharing it with others. It's just so wrong that some people used her for their own ends.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
magda24
post Feb 18 2009, 12:13 PM
Post #12
The light descends from nowhere


Group Icon

Posts: 2 093
From: POLAND
Gender:
Real Name: magdalena

Joined: 12-August 06


I saw it. It's based on Marilyn : Dernières séances by Michel Schneider. It's a bit fictionalised book focusing on Marilyn's relationship with Greenson. I think Schneider widely based his book on Miner's. I wasn't impressed with neither book or documentary.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Tara
post Feb 18 2009, 02:03 PM
Post #13
Glittering Mist


Group Icon

Posts: 6 651
From: England
Gender:

Joined: 11-August 04


QUOTE(magda24 @ Feb 18 2009, 11:13 AM) *
I saw it. It's based on Marilyn : Dernières séances by Michel Schneider. It's a bit fictionalised book focusing on Marilyn's relationship with Greenson. I think Schneider widely based his book on Miner's. I wasn't impressed with neither book or documentary.


Thanks Magda, sounds like the same old, same old...
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
MarilynKissesxox...
post Feb 18 2009, 09:18 PM
Post #14
Marilyn nut


Group Icon

Posts: 51
From: Ontario,Canada
Gender:
Real Name: Bronte

Joined: 31-January 09


People focus way too much on her personal life and when she was unhappy. Everybody is unhappy some point in their life. I just wish people payed more attention to her career instead.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
nicky62
post Mar 9 2009, 11:51 PM
Post #15
Everlasting Star


Group Icon

Posts: 1 774
From: Puerto Rico
Gender:
Real Name: Prince Nicolas aka Nicky

Joined: 15-August 02


I downloaded the Spanish version havent seen it as soon as I can I will kick my point of view
Nicky62
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Eva
post Jun 16 2009, 12:17 PM
Post #16
Marilyn addict


Group Icon

Posts: 191
From: United Kingdom
Gender:
Real Name: EVA

Joined: 17-January 08


I have only seen a small preview of it as i'm in the UK, it looks interesting does anyone know if this will be shown on British TV soon.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Paju
post Nov 28 2009, 05:01 PM
Post #17
♥ Appleblossom ♥


Group Icon

Posts: 3 998
From: Finland
Gender:
Real Name: Sirkku

Joined: 4-August 02


They're showing it tonight here in Finland, channel Yle Teema. They're having a Marilyn themed evening. First there's this documentary, and then Some Like It Hot (IMG:http://www.everlasting-star.net/boards/style_emoticons/default/smile1.gif)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Eva
post Nov 28 2009, 09:07 PM
Post #18
Marilyn addict


Group Icon

Posts: 191
From: United Kingdom
Gender:
Real Name: EVA

Joined: 17-January 08


QUOTE(Paju @ Nov 28 2009, 04:01 PM) *
They're showing it tonight here in Finland, channel Yle Teema. They're having a Marilyn themed evening. First there's this documentary, and then Some Like It Hot (IMG:http://www.everlasting-star.net/boards/style_emoticons/default/smile1.gif)



Sounds great Paju'' i would love to be there with you. (IMG:http://www.everlasting-star.net/boards/style_emoticons/default/throb.gif)

Will this Documentary be shown in the uk.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Paju
post Nov 29 2009, 11:41 AM
Post #19
♥ Appleblossom ♥


Group Icon

Posts: 3 998
From: Finland
Gender:
Real Name: Sirkku

Joined: 4-August 02


I didn't expect much of this documentary based on what I had read here, so I was actually plesantly surprised. It's definitely not the ultimate Marilyn documentary and yes, there's Miner and psychoanalysis and Kennedys and whatever, but still I ended up liking it.

What I didn't like about it: concentrating on Marilyn's unhappiness, John Miner and the Greenson tapes (which were playing in the background but I could only hear a couple of sentences), Kennedy talk

What I liked about it: the whole visual style, lots of video clips of Marilyn, pictures that weren't the same old same old, the fact that it wasn't just another "talking heads" kind of documentary - there was a French speaking narrator and that's it, video clips of Los Angeles and New York, the fact that they didn't claim that this is the ultimate truth on Marilyn's death.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Margherita
post Nov 29 2009, 09:34 PM
Post #20
Ultimate fan


Group Icon

Posts: 832
From: By the sea
Gender:

Joined: 5-June 05


I also live in Finland and watched the doc yesterday, and it does contain some beautiful rare footages, I've never seen - but on the whole, for my part, I was quite disappointed -

Few things, the documentary was labeled: Marilyn's last session; but instead it went all the way from her childhood, through adolescence, marriages and all.

It irritated me that when the narrator spoke for instance of incidents happening in early sixties the film clicks mostly showed her from early -50's! So as she would have looked allways the same, while her outlooks changed enourmously through the years...

There was her voice in the background, but it couldn't be a recording from any Greenson-session, as Miner didn't get himself those recordings (alleged recordings) but made notes (allegedly - or then didn't make...), I think her voice all the time in the background was instead from the recording that was made at her home during the last summer, or what ?

----

Yes, it showed Marilyn as quite a hopeless figure, and her most beautiful photos and pieces of her films that could have been used, were excluded - of course there was something, from SLIH, Misfits, something in New York.

The documentary also contained bad mistakes in facts - like it said, that when DeDienes photographed Norma Jeane on the beach and she still had her darkish golden brown hair about mid -40's or so, THAT was the time when she draw the name Marilyn Monroe in the sand - and it wasn't that way!
The whole document was quite full of these small mistakes. Why couldn't they check out things better?

There was also something like: Her mother didn't seem to love her at all, was allways cold and unkind - I don't think that's true, where did they invent this?

And the document told us that Marilyn contacted L. Olivier to give her "lessons in Shakespeare-acting". And, the footage linked with that was of course from TPATSG, when M was so traumatized after the filming with Olivier..


And, oh, I must add an edit: This doc shows the good old Arlene Hunter-naked film (part of it) as "possibly Marilyn's earliest film role" (IMG:http://www.everlasting-star.net/boards/style_emoticons/default/surrender.gif) - So at that point I also considered turning the tv off...

This post has been edited by Ultraviolet: Nov 29 2009, 09:47 PM
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

3 Pages V   1 2 3 >
Reply to this topicStart new topic

 



RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 17th April 2021 - 08:31 AM
This Marilyn Community is sponsored by:


Marilyn Emoticons and all Marilyn related icons and buttons © Brandon Heidrick 2003-2009, Twitter icon by IconTexto.com
Avatars contributed by : Paju of Love Marilyn, Nina of Marilyn Online, Marloes of Marilynfan.org, Faith of starleticons_, Jeharsy, Ariane, and Missy.
Header image by Marina.