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Bobby
post May 26 2008, 03:14 PM
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This was Marilyn's final film. Unfortunately it was not completed before her untimely death but thanks to the 2001 documentary 'The Final Days' we were able to see the footage that was shot before the project was shelved. The film was to be a light-hearted bedroom comedy co-starring Dean Martin and Cyd Charisse and directed by the legendary George Cukor.

I think it's difficult to judge the edited version of the film we see at the end of the documentary as it's only forty or so minutes long. But to me, it seemed an enjoyable and fun sort of picture but no more than that. It was unspectacular and I don't think many people would remember it as anything other than a run-of-the-mill romantic comedy in which Marilyn Monroe gets her kit off (if that's not too paradoxic)! I thought the script seemed to lack any originality or spark in terms of comedic dialogue. What did you think?
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post May 26 2008, 03:32 PM
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I read somewhere that in Final Days they used the worst shots of marilyn acting and the original footage lasts for many hours.
But I agree with you Bobby. I happened to watch Move Over, Darling, which was based on the original script and this movie was everything but good. It would be great to see Marilyn finally as a mother but the jokes seemed lame and the whole story just too old fashioned even for early 60's. I'm afraid it would have been typical Marilyn movie-poor film with her outstanding performance. But who knows...
A link to a video created by MsMonroe (hope she doesn't mind me pasting this) in which she compares unfinished Monroe movie with Doris Day motion pic
http://youtube.com/watch?v=AfgNN5MjJ1U
Very interesting!
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post May 26 2008, 06:23 PM
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I enjoyed the Doris Day film, but it is just a fun afternoon movie. Marilyn's first appearance, entering the garden and watching the children, is lovely. She brings a vulnerability to the scene that Doris, trouper though she was, could not. But I think Marilyn only accepted the film to work off her old contract with Fox, and she was struggling to rise above the material. If it had been finished, maybe her chemistry with Dean Martin (and Wally Cox) would have shone through. She always excelled in comedy and maybe it would have given her the hit she needed at that time. But I can't see it matching her earlier work with Billy Wilder.
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post May 27 2008, 12:19 AM
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I have to agree with Tara. This film was just an obligation to Marilyn and although the short version we are able to see shows that she was head and shoulders above her co-stars in this film, I think the film would not have done much for her perception as an actor. The best thing that would have come out of this film was Marilyn's nude swim scene, which, undoubtedly, would have caused quite a stir in the world of celebrity scandal. That, at the very least, would have given Marilyn a new platform from which to launch a stretegic career move. One thing I've always been curious about in this film: In My Favorite Wife with Irene Dunne, the couple have two daughters, and in Move Over, Darling they also have two daughters, but in SGTG they have a son and a daughter. I wonder if that decision involved Marilyn at all. Does anyone know?
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post May 28 2008, 03:27 AM
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Well, I really would have liked to see this movie for so many reasons. Number one was because Marilyn was IMO at her most beautiful, absolutely and amazingly beautiful and gorgeous!! Secondly, I would have loved to see her play a mother- I know it would have been as touching as hell. She made me sob in her first scene where Ellen sees the children for the first time. Thirdly, she had great chemistry with Dean Martin, I mean that combination certainly would have been interesting; they looked great together. As with some other of her films, the dialogue wasn't that funny, but Marilyn's timing and reactions MADE it funny, she's great in what I've seen. Add Dean Martin and I really think that they both would have made this a terrific and funny hit!

QUOTE(lorileime @ May 27 2008, 12:19 AM) *
One thing I've always been curious about in this film: In My Favorite Wife with Irene Dunne, the couple have two daughters, and in Move Over, Darling they also have two daughters, but in SGTG they have a son and a daughter. I wonder if that decision involved Marilyn at all. Does anyone know?


Oooh, interesting. I wish I knew! What I do know is that Marilyn mentioned that the youngest girl on the film would have been the same age as her daughter if she hadn't misscarried. Sad. The young actors remember Marilyn as a wonderful lady, I love hearing about how children reacted to her. I wish there were more scenes available with Marilyn and the children in this...

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post May 31 2008, 03:55 AM
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I thought this movie would have changed the direction of her career. She was still sexy, but in a more serious, realistic type of way. Also, playing a mother makes her seem more mature. Her accent as Inga Tic was soooo funny! I think Marilyn and Dean had great chemistry as well. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post May 31 2008, 06:58 AM
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Eventhough the film was incomplete, I'd say this is my favorite MM flick. The best MM movie scene ever was the one where she was bonding with the children. I really wish the film had been completed, I was so angry when the director yelled, "Cut!" as the plot started to thicken. I don't often look for originality, although it would be a plus.
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post May 31 2008, 01:21 PM
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I liked SGTG. I saw it as a turning point in MM's career where sadly the aftermath will never be known. She seemed more mature in the role, breaking away from many of her typical (but delightful) previous roles. I know the 37 minutes we were given, can't act as much of a basis to call the film spectacular as most of what we saw was a 'build up', but I personally believe a new Marilyn was on the horizon - one with so much essence and character than the one we all know and love now.

Also, we all know Marilyn can play more sophisticated roles: "Bus Stop" being one of them...
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post Jun 3 2008, 10:24 AM
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Did they ever concider finishing the film with a body double like they did with Jean Harlow in Saratoga?
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post Jun 3 2008, 12:32 PM
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I think there were way too many scenes that Marilyn hadn't completed to do that. But, today with CGI, they could probably do a fair job at finishing it. The problem would be getting the little nuances that real poeple can add.
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post Jun 3 2008, 01:06 PM
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Also wouldn't it be nice if some sort of documentary released about the whole film with all the footage, including that, that had been been edited for the end of the 37 minute of the SGTG which appeared at the end of the Final Days Documentary?

I wouldn't mind seeing that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes1.gif)
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post Jun 3 2008, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(arsena1 @ Jun 3 2008, 08:06 AM) *
Also wouldn't it be nice if some sort of documentary released about the whole film with all the footage, including that, that had been been edited for the end of the 37 minute of the SGTG which appeared at the end of the Final Days Documentary?

I wouldn't mind seeing that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes1.gif)

Yes I agree. There is a guy who has it for sale. You can get a hold of him via the web. He says that the footage is very grainy, but I think there are six hours in total. I can email you his web address if you pm me. I think the last time I asked about it he wanted $50.00 US and I didn't get it because he said it was grainy.
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post Jun 17 2008, 01:37 AM
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I just made my sister watch the Final Days/SGTG documentary with me and she loved it. I was so surprised she actually sat through it--I put the movie on first and then the documentary, then we watched one about her entire life--my sister is...let's just say she's not a fan--whenever I'm watching an MM movie she'll roll her eyes or say "I can't stand that voice" or " I hate how she pronounces her words" but after explaining to her the training that she went through early in her career, the forced annunciation, the dropping of the tone of her voice, and the fact that they were CHARACTERS and showing her some footage in which she uses her real voice (as well as SGTG,) she seemed really interested, and was giggling at quite a few parts and I was so surprised she sat through it with me and was genuinely impressed, as she should be. I am not a HUGE fan of sixties Marilyn (I prefer fifties Marilyn personally) but she really does look spectacular and different and powerful in a way, and the movie would have been cute. But I think that what I really accomplished was changing one more skeptic--if not into a fan, at least into someone who appreciates what Marilyn went through and her talent.
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post Jun 17 2008, 02:04 AM
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i adore what there is from this film. i wish that marilyn finished it more than anything. i think that they should at least try and make it into a full length movie, they could piece together as much footage of marilyn as possible and find a girl they can make look like marilyn enough to convince the audience. virtually anything can be done today.

would you like the job colby? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile1.gif)

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post Jun 17 2008, 02:27 AM
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hahah you know I'd LOVE the job Dwanester, but alas I'd have to starve myself in order to even get anywhere near as wonderfully thin as she is in this film. Gimme a couple years of diets and exercise and plastic surgery and I'll get back to ya'. hahaha! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/marilynbybrandon_190.gif)
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post Jun 17 2008, 02:32 AM
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QUOTE(mmmMarilyn @ Jun 16 2008, 09:27 PM) *
hahah you know I'd LOVE the job Dwanester, but alas I'd have to starve myself in order to even get anywhere near as wonderfully thin as she is in this film. Gimme a couple years of diets and exercise and plastic surgery and I'll get back to ya'. hahaha! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/marilynbybrandon_190.gif)

Pardon me for interjecting, but if you actually do create a successful look-a-like and can still manage to be 'you', I might want to marry you. LOL
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post Jun 17 2008, 03:14 AM
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lol, your perfect the way you are colby.

back off she's mine! LOL (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Jun 17 2008, 02:40 PM
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hahaha, you two are adorable!
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post Jun 17 2008, 06:04 PM
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I love this film too, I really wish Marilyn could have finished it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/no.gif)
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post Jul 5 2008, 07:40 PM
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I just finished watching SGTG again today and I love how Marilyn is in this film. She's gained maturity and you can see the knowledge in her eyes and in her smile. Yet she's still light and happy and carefree - particularly with the children, that's the best scene in the whole film. She sparkles onscreen. IMO the scenes without her are quite dull but she livens up the ones she is in no end. I wish she'd completed it, but I am happy that we at least have these forty minutes.
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