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Lauren Michele
post Sep 7 2006, 02:51 AM
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QUOTE(dlmagoo @ Sep 6 2006, 06:58 PM) [snapback]114203[/snapback]
Ya'll are gonna prolly hate me.. but I would say go ahead and exhume her body.. if for no other reason that to get DNA to see if those women saying they are her daughter are hers. Remember, most of the organs from her autopsy were disposed of, so I'm sure the only way to tell at this point would be to test what remains, but I'm sure after they botched the first autopsy, there isn't much left to test.

Also.. to whomever said that she is happy where she is.. in the crypt she's just a body wasting away.. her spirit and her soul have gone on.. so if there is a way to bring closure to the spirit and let her rest.. shouldn't that be done???

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Hi dlmagoo, is there a legal battle going on with these alleged Marilyn daughter's? If not, i cannot see exhuming Marilyn on that basis. Like i mentioned i am against the exhumation for any reason.
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post Sep 7 2006, 01:17 PM
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Well you know that there is that nutcase Nancy Miracle that says she's her daughter.. but no DNA proof.. and Barbara Monroe.. Then there is a Janet R??? that says she is also.. so.. I think to give THEM closure also.. something needs to be done.. I would like to know who my mother is... (IMG:http://www.everlasting-star.net/boards/style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)
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post Sep 9 2006, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(dlmagoo @ Sep 7 2006, 08:17 AM) [snapback]114258[/snapback]
Well you know that there is that nutcase Nancy Miracle that says she's her daughter.. but no DNA proof.. and Barbara Monroe.. Then there is a Janet R??? that says she is also.. so.. I think to give THEM closure also.. something needs to be done.. I would like to know who my mother is... (IMG:http://www.everlasting-star.net/boards/style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)



Hi dlmagoo, in my opinion i don't agree we should disrupt Marilyn's rest because a few people claim to be her daughter. (IMG:http://www.everlasting-star.net/boards/style_emoticons/default/throb.gif)
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post Sep 9 2006, 07:54 PM
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Is there anything left of her body to get answers from? DNA can tell if these people are her daughter, but the main reason to exhume her body would be to find out what really happened the night she died. Does anything remain of the body that could reveal that? Most people (non-Marilyn devotees) believe she committed suicide, she's as famous for her sex appeal as her "tragic death", "died from an overdose", "killed herself". But what if she didn't? To a lot of people she's a tragic sex icon, but what if it was never her time to go, if someone did this to her? If they think they can find out, then go for it. Find out. It doesn't matter if most people never know about it, and still believed it was suicide. It would be justice for Marilyn. If only a few people knew the truth that would be enough. As it is, noone does. But if they're not 100% certain they can reveal something, leave her be.

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post Sep 9 2006, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(jennie2000 @ Sep 9 2006, 02:54 PM) [snapback]114469[/snapback]
Is there anything left of her body to get answers from? DNA can tell if these people are her daughter, but the main reason to exhume her body would be to find out what really happened the night she died. Does anything remain of the body that could reveal that? Most people (non-Marilyn devotees) believe she committed suicide, she's as famous for her sex appeal as her "tragic death", "died from an overdose", "killed herself". But what if she didn't? To a lot of people she's a tragic sex icon, but what if it was never her time to go, if someone did this to her? If they think they can find out, then go for it. Find out. It doesn't matter if most people never know about it, and still believed it was suicide. It would be justice for Marilyn. If only a few people knew the truth that would be enough. As it is, noone does. But if they're not 100% certain they can reveal something, leave her be.

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Hello Molly, what i've learned thanks to Forensics, if Marilyn had been murdered by the hands of someone, such as strangulation there would be no problem to assess the cause of death.
Marilyn's barbituate poisoning in her blood was extremely high found at autopsy. She had no signs, i am assuming by what the coroner concluded of a homocide.

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post Sep 10 2006, 04:10 PM
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I think, when we exhume her body, we could find out, if she really commited suicide or not, that's for me the important question.

I think it's so sad, that she has this suicide stigma... the dumb blonde, who couldn't handle Hollywood and all that stuff, the tragic woman, who never was loved and all this stupid *s*...

There is a dark shadow over Marilyn and she deserved light. She never killed herself - I'm sure about that. But that suicide theory was the easiest way to tell the public.

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post Nov 2 2006, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(Nina @ Sep 10 2006, 10:10 AM) [snapback]114531[/snapback]
I think, when we exhume her body, we could find out, if she really commited suicide or not, that's for me the important question.

I think it's so sad, that she has this suicide stigma... the dumb blonde, who couldn't handle Hollywood and all that stuff, the tragic woman, who never was loved and all this stupid *s*...

There is a dark shadow over Marilyn and she deserved light. She never killed herself - I'm sure about that. But that suicide theory was the easiest way to tell the public.

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Hi Nina (IMG:http://www.everlasting-star.net/boards/style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) I am wondering in 1962 if the coroner saved any forensic evidence, such as microscopic slides and DNA then perhaps they would not need to exhume Marilyn after all because it was not like she was strangled , or shot. I would think her blood tissues would answer questions if they have not degraded and if they even saved any back then.
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post Mar 5 2007, 01:57 PM
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the whole alluer opf marilyn is the way she died. if we knew for certain one way or another, it would either frustrate us if answers were inconclusive, and take the allure away and things still wouldnt add up if it was plain old suicide
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post Mar 5 2007, 04:46 PM
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I think she should be left to rest.
However, I'm selfish and curious, so there is a part of me that wants her body to be exhumed. But I think she should be left alone. Exhuming her body will not result in the truth. There are too many people with different interests involved for us to know the real truth.
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post Mar 5 2007, 05:11 PM
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Well, this is a difficuld question pffffffffffffff.
A part of me wants to know the trouth and another part of me wants to keep the legend alive.
I think that they should question the people that are alive today in a court and let them finally talk about the things they have lied about all those years.
I think it would be strange if Eunis murray never have told the truth to her family.
And what about Pat newcomb , it is all so strange.
Why coverup after all those years???.
And maybe they should look at the remains of Marilyn but I am afraid that the only thing that is happening then is that we see pictures in every magazine of a 45 year dead Marilyn because that would be THE sensation for a lot of people and there will not be a mystery solved.
O God ,I am ashamed to say I would look to the pictures too because there is something morbid in me pfffffffff
No, let her rest in piece for what you can call rest in peace ( I think she never will)
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If Marilyn had had any family left (who really cared about her) I believe they would have pushed for an exhumation just to prove she did not kill herself. I think her greatest fans and believers don't believe she did that, and there's too much evidence to prove she didn't, but hmph, there's money here, and what makes more money than a dead movie star. I have no respect whatsoever for Marilyn's "niece" (find her website for yourselves), according to her everything is hunky-dory, but I don't think so. I believe she sits there earning money from a Marilyn she never really knew, and noone will never know what really happened to her because people like her will sit there and go: "Oh, it was all fxxxxng hunky dory"
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post May 25 2007, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(Frances @ Jul 23 2006, 01:11 AM) [snapback]109982[/snapback]
As I always say 'the truth is out there" but that does not mean it will ever be found.



I've allways thought "the truth has been out there, it still is out there and will be out there" till comes a time when the truth about who possibly murdered her , gave an order to commit the thing or was seriously involved, doesn't matter anymore.... I'm most certain it will go this way. Allthoug not 100 % certain, something we don't expect now, can appear, and I would be really happy if something unawaited (that even Jackie K. wouldn't have guessed, would appear). I'm referring to Jackie K. cause she said some years before she died that she knows all about this case, has put everything down in a notebook or so, and the truth about things lies in some valve that has been given orders not to be opened untill everybody that's alive "now" (or was it has been involved ? ) has been dead for 70 years. Gosh, that is SO secretive. What on earth lies beneath there ? (IMG:http://www.everlasting-star.net/boards/style_emoticons/default/banana.gif)
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post Jun 19 2007, 12:45 AM
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I really don't contribute much here, but I want to add my 2 cents in. I think, if scientifically there is a real shot at coming up with new, and better answers to the question of how she died, it should be done. All of her life she was rejected by everyone. Family, "friends", colleagues, etc. and was never given the proper recognition for what she accomplished after she died. Even forty years later! If her suicide could be proven to be a homicide it would exhonorate her to a great degree and maybe then the stigma that surrounds honoring a suicide victim would be lifted and she could get some recognition for the the accomplishments she made. My goodness, a girl needs a little praise every now and then, even after she's dead! I sick of hearing from people how dumb, and slutty and whatever else she was. No one will ever get it unless her life meant something. And being the perpetrator of suicide just closes the book on anyone giving her a chance. I say, do the necropsy if it looks like it would be beneficial. Personally, I think I know who killed her. It's too bad he's dead and his accomplice is dead. I think, I'm pretty sure I know, that Dr. Greenson did it. I think it was an accident. I know Murray was involved. I just wish there were a way to prove it. Maybe a necropsy would shed more light on the subject.
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post Sep 4 2007, 09:48 PM
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wasnt hugh hefner supposed to be pushing for an inquest into her death again?
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QUOTE(purple-haze @ Jul 22 2006, 07:36 PM) *
i agree, i duno whats up with that man, three girlfriends at once and all that, thoes girls must be dumb, or desperate for a good life...

i think the fact he will be next to her, makes marilyn seem cheap and like one of his little sl*t girls..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/no.gif)



OMG. Hef is a Marilyn fan. Try watching his show sometime she's mentioned quite a bit and her pictures are everywhere. I believe in two different shows they show clips from Gentlemen Prefer Blondes. Ok so he started his magazine with her nude pictures and he never paid her a dime. Yes thats wrong and if I ever see him out on the street I'll tell him its wrong. Shame on him for that. But if you think about it after his first magazine came out Marilyn was'nt ashamed at all. She said yes thats me & went on about her business. That was big for a star to do that in those days. I think it really set her apart from everyone else. I think its cool that he's being laid to rest next to Marilyn. Lucky him. I'll say hi to him whenever I visit Marilyn. Its not like he's going to be able to touch her or anything. You know why? Because he's going to be DEAD (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes1.gif) So what if he has three girlfriends. Good for him. I see him having fun at 80 years old living the kind of life that he wants to live and he does'nt give a damn what other people think. People have to make a living somehow & porn just happens to be his calling (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laughing.gif)

Off topic I know.

As for your question Pinup I dont know if he is or not. I dont think they should be messing with Marilyn's remains. Could you imagine? Shiver. It would make me really sad to see that happen (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sadballerina.gif)
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QUOTE(RetroLove @ Sep 5 2007, 07:19 AM) *
OMG. Hef is a Marilyn fan. Try watching his show sometime she's mentioned quite a bit and her pictures are everywhere. I believe in two different shows they show clips from Gentlemen Prefer Blondes. Ok so he started his magazine with her nude pictures and he never paid her a dime. Yes thats wrong and if I ever see him out on the street I'll tell him its wrong. Shame on him for that. But if you think about it after his first magazine came out Marilyn was'nt ashamed at all. She said yes thats me & went on about her business. That was big for a star to do that in those days. I think it really set her apart from everyone else. I think its cool that he's being laid to rest next to Marilyn. Lucky him. I'll say hi to him whenever I visit Marilyn. Its not like he's going to be able to touch her or anything. You know why? Because he's going to be DEAD (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes1.gif) So what if he has three girlfriends. Good for him. I see him having fun at 80 years old living the kind of life that he wants to live and he does'nt give a damn what other people think. People have to make a living somehow & porn just happens to be his calling (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laughing.gif)

Off topic I know.

As for your question Pinup I dont know if he is or not. I dont think they should be messing with Marilyn's remains. Could you imagine? Shiver. It would make me really sad to see that happen (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sadballerina.gif)


yes i agree. to be honest i think the perso who really exploited marilyn was the photographer who sold the phots to hef in the 1st place. then again the picstures being in playboy ultimately helped he career, they pushed her more into the public eye. Ive seen the episodes of girls of the playboy mansion of marilyn being mentioned, i think holly his gf did a copy of the ballerina shoot that marilyn did for him and she also did a nude gpb picture for playboy. I love the pictures of marilyn he has around his house and also his las vegas apartment!!

I dont think they should mess with marilyns remains but it sure would be good to finally find out what happened that night (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Sep 9 2007, 01:28 AM
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isn't their any of her DNA left on anything? i mean they could have gotten DNA from one of MM's lipstick's or her tooth brush.
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i always wonder why they cant do testing on her hair that was cut from her when she was dead? surely they could find something?
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You would think so. It would seem more appropriate I think.
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yes i know some people have pieces of her hair from the autopsy-ive seen it on ebay (then again it could be fake on there!!)
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